Fiona Hill

So I'm just saying that I'm never been really convinced that Putin had something that was so off the charts in terms of its radioactivity that could bring Trump down because so many other things have failed to do so.

I think it's because of his frame from the Cold War in the 1980s.

I think it's still that idea.

And he said it many times in relationship to Ukraine, that Russia was just a big power.

He thinks of it just as Trump, as Putin.

Yes, but just to Trump, because he doesn't really listen to the assessments of you, me or anyone else on this score.

You know, for him, it's the size of the country.

So we're getting back to what we were talking about before.

Why does he want Greenland?

Because it's 2% bigger, 10,000 square miles bigger than the Louisiana Purchase.

You know, so it's the biggest real estate deal in history.

Who's got the biggest real estate in the world?

It's Vladimir Putin.

You know, it's kind of, he's been, you know, sort of described as, you know, the richest man in the world by everybody from Elon Musk, who clearly is, you know, not Vladimir Putin.

He's not going to cash out and, you know, kind of run around the world, you know, behaving like a tech mogul.

But everybody thinks of this still in terms of it's just its size and the weight of it on the world stage.

It's those things that you've laid out completely.

But I think there's also another edge to it that gets back to what we've just talked about.

I think he's envious in some respects about Zelensky, though he would never, ever say thus.

Because Zelensky's got all the accolades, rightly so, of being a real wartime president.