Fiona Hill

I was thinking that it's often, you know, people who are not necessarily, you know, kind of world figures.

You know, somebody who has actually even done something, you know, unspeakably good for people.

Somebody who's been really brave.

You know, he's often, you know, kind of put himself out there for, you know, some of the hostages, not just to get accolades for bringing them back.

You know, there have been times when he's done something that, you know, won't necessarily, you know, give him, you know, popular acclaim all the time.

And look,

There are a couple of issues that I think he has to be given some credit for.

He's not the kind of person who wants to preside over mass slaughter, even though it might look like it at times when we see what's happening currently in the country.

But he is appalled by what the Iranians are doing.

He's appalled by what Putin's doing.

He was appalled by what Assad did, and he wanted to do something about it.

He's not somebody...

you know, who, you know, wants to have the charnel houses, you know, filled with mountains of skulls.

That's not him.

The other thing is that he genuinely wants to see an end to the risk of nuclear war, nuclear armageddon, just as Biden did.

I mean, the same age group

He's been pretty consistent on this.

He really did want to finish off the efforts that were started in the 1980s.

And this is what's ironic at the moment, because, of course, we're in a bit of a pickle because the New START treaty has now lapsed.

But he really did want to have those big arms control, arms negotiation talks going.