Fiona Hill

And, you know, sometimes you just have to stand up there and speak out, which is, you know, what I did and what others did as well.

None of those people who spoke out, you know, can initially saw that as a partisan act, even if some of them since then have decided to make political choices they hadn't made before.

Because, you know, the situation actually forced people into, you know, taking sides.

It's very hard to still stay above the fray when you've got, you know, someone who's trying to perpetrate a coup.

I mean, our political system needs revitalization.

We need to be taking a long, hard look at ourselves here.

And I think what people are calling out for, look, there's a vast swath of the population, like me, who are unaffiliated.

You know, maybe some lean in one direction over another.

And unaffiliated doesn't mean you don't have views about things and political opinions.

And, you know, you may sound quite extreme on some of those, you know, either from a left or right perspective.

What people are looking for is kind of an articulation, you know, things in a kind of a clear way that they can get a handle on.

And they're also looking for a representation.

Somebody is going to be there, you know, for you, you know, not part of a kind of a rigid team that you're excluded from, you know, the ins and the outs.

But what people are looking at now, they're looking at that in the workplace because they're not finding that.

In politics, you're actually getting workers, you know, pushing the, people talk about the rise of the worker, but people just saying, hang on a sec, you know, the most important space that I'm in right now is my workplace because that's where my benefits are from.

They're not coming from the state.

I mean, that's a peculiarity of the United States system.

You know, in Britain, you've got the National Health Service and you've got all the kind of national-wide benefits.

You know, you're not tethered to your employer like you are in the United States.

But here now, we're asking people, you know, people are pushing workers