Fiona Hill

All of the kind of like the people who you kind of see out there in prominent positions are the sons or daughters of, including Putin himself.

I mean, that's when a system has degenerated.

And that's, you know, kind of, and I suppose in a way, this is a symbol of the degeneration of the system.

But again, it's just a diversion from, you know, kind of the bigger issues and bigger implications of things that we're discussing.

It's just the nature of the person.

I mean, I don't feel particularly emotional about him.

I mean, he's kind of a

He's a very flawed guy.

To be honest, and this may seem bizarre, I felt sorry for him because this guy is so vulnerable, so wrapped up in himself that, I mean, he's just exquisitely open to manipulation.

And I saw people taking advantage of him all the time.

He has zero self-awareness.

I mean, I kept thinking to myself, my God, if this guy didn't have this entourage around him, how would he function?

I mean, I felt sorry for us as well.

I mean, that he ended up being our president because that should not have happened.

I mean, in terms of character and in terms of fit for the job.

Although I saw this, you know, kind of over a period of time, but I didn't feel, you know, kind of any, you know.

sense of derangement, you know, kind of around him.

It didn't drive me nuts in that way.

I just became, I was just very worried about, you know, the kind of the impact that he was having on many particular issues.

Yeah, and more voted in 2020 than voted in 2016 for him.