Fionnán Sheahan

Whereas Deep are saying to me, at least this week, what I'm being told is at least the HSE are trying.

And that seems to be the approach from the minister at the moment.

But bear in mind, it's 250 million euro overrun in the HSE.

They're going to have to stop frontline recruitment as a result of this.

Meanwhile, millions are still being spent on agency staff, right?

We're, as you say, May.

Where are we going to be in December?

Because we could be at a billion euro again.

And as you say, I think you touched on this a little bit a while ago in one of your pieces, but supplementary estimates, which, you know, for those unaware, are the mini bailouts you happen every year.

They're like another budget towards the end of the year.

They're top ups.

Because every department blows through their budget.

It's just very worrying that we now collectively have almost a billion euro overspend in two departments.

And the attitude from health is always going to be,

One source in health said to me last year when I said, where is this going to land?

They got, what was it, a record $22 billion last year.

Health just has to be funded.

You can't underfund health.

We know the government's committed as well in the programme for going to this cost of disability payment.

That's something Derek Leary in an interview we'll have on Sunday with him touches on.