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And I didn't want to get jammed up because as I was doing it, I was adding more people to what I was doing.

And it was kind of backfiring where I owed a couple people some money.

You know what I mean?

Hey, I might owe somebody some money now for it, right?

Whether it was $100 or $200 back then or something.

Because, as you know, all good things come to an end that came to an end, too.

Um, but then after that was, after that was pretty much over with, still kind of still in the school thing, finishing up school, um, ended up finishing school.

Uh, once I kind of finished up school, um, now I'm kind of stuck in this kind of period, right?

It's kind of like a, it's kind of like this, this area of, um...

where you finish school, but you got to go into the real world of work, but the real world of work ain't really paying no money out there.

I'm talking to a friend, I'm talking to this girl, and she tells me she's working at a debt collection place, right?

And I'm like, okay, cool.

I mean, they hiring?

She said, yeah, they hiring.

They're always hiring.

Yeah, hiring at debt collection.

So I decided to get a job over there.

But this debt collector is an unusual debt collector.

This debt collector is collecting on American Express, right?

It's collecting on American Express accounts.