Forrest Kelly

It's a discussion.

You know, it's work, but it's fun.

It's fun.

He likes, you know, he likes challenges.

At the end of the day, it's sort of like doing chemistry with this natural, very old plant.

It's working with the earth.

It's farming.

It's still fun to do.

But yeah, I get a lot of pushback because, you know, I come with a fresher mind.

I come with a beginner's mind.

I come with bigger dreams.

And I think he also, that's why we connected the way we connected because...

A lot of times when you have been doing something for a long time and you have learned from people who've been doing it for a long time, you may sort of think in a very rich box, but you're still in that box, you know.

And so I think it's amusing to him.

And we talk in France, you know, they have a tradition of wine, old world for a long time.

So I think it's amusing and fun also for him to have someone like me who come in with just bigger ideas.

And he saw that we achieved some of it with the red and the rosé.

It's fun to work on.

But yes, long answer, but I get a lot of pushback.

Thank you for listening.