Frances Cook

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So when you talk to people about figuring this out, where do you start this conversation to help them figure out what their unbearable feeling is?

Is that the sort of thing where someone would need to sit down with a person like yourself who's trained in this?

Or is it possible to do by yourself or with friends?

How self-aware do you need to be to figure this out?

I think...

It's funny that you mention about couples because do you find there's often quite an interplay?

Yeah.

Yeah, hit me with that.

It must be interesting working in this space.

I imagine it prompts some self-reflection too.

Yeah, I was going to say, is it the sort of thing where you sort of become more aware and better at dealing with it, but it doesn't necessarily go away?

Interesting, though, going back to what you were saying at the very beginning about the positive side of these things, because obviously you've also ended up in a career where you are doing a lot for people.

It's very caring.

Do you think that's linked?

Absolutely.

It's so like so much of the behavioral side of this always comes back to like awareness.

Absolutely.