Frances Fry

So these two women found it.

Well, they didn't call it the Clance-Imez phenomenon.

Right.

Which we're going to later see is was much more common at the time to name it after people.

Instead, they just identified the thing and then people started referring to the thing in a catchy way.

So I think that that's the first thing is that this has been around for more than 50 years.

It started with women in academia who were really high achieving, but they thought they weren't.

Yeah, if you're in the majority or in the center of power, while you can have imposter syndrome, probabilistically you're less likely to than if you're the less powerful or the more underrepresented.

Yeah.

So I find that the first step that's helpful is to know that we are not the only distortion field in town and that there is another distortion field, which is actually quite a bit more vibrant than ours.

And that is where we overestimate our abilities vis-a-vis reality.

So if we're underappreciating ourselves, there's another syndrome, another distortion that

that's over-appreciating themselves.

It did not get a catchy name.

This one was first identified in 1999 by two academics.

And they called it after themselves.

So they called it- They were probably not experiencing imposter syndrome.

We don't know for sure, but I don't think so.

And so in the landmark paper that introduced it, they also named it the Dunning-Kruger effect after each of their last names.

It's the opposite.