Francesca
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They were always trying to stress that we're not a cult. In school, they showed us Jim Jones and David Koresh. They showed us those and they're like, see, that's a cult. If no one gets murdered, it's not a cult.
Eventually, my sister moved down to the valley, down to Phoenix. She tried to stay in it. But basically, if you're away, they're not really letting you do it. Everybody tithed money. Everyone was paying for Trina and Stephen's life.
Eventually, my sister moved down to the valley, down to Phoenix. She tried to stay in it. But basically, if you're away, they're not really letting you do it. Everybody tithed money. Everyone was paying for Trina and Stephen's life.
Eventually, my sister moved down to the valley, down to Phoenix. She tried to stay in it. But basically, if you're away, they're not really letting you do it. Everybody tithed money. Everyone was paying for Trina and Stephen's life.
Exactly. My sister went up there to tithe and I guess she was trying to quit smoking. One of the cult leader's daughters said, oh, Tasha's trying to quit smoking. And Trina went, smoking doesn't cause cancer. And Tasha was like, okay, that's it. Like that was her last straw.
Exactly. My sister went up there to tithe and I guess she was trying to quit smoking. One of the cult leader's daughters said, oh, Tasha's trying to quit smoking. And Trina went, smoking doesn't cause cancer. And Tasha was like, okay, that's it. Like that was her last straw.
Exactly. My sister went up there to tithe and I guess she was trying to quit smoking. One of the cult leader's daughters said, oh, Tasha's trying to quit smoking. And Trina went, smoking doesn't cause cancer. And Tasha was like, okay, that's it. Like that was her last straw.
Right. And he would give medical advice.
Right. And he would give medical advice.
Right. And he would give medical advice.
What blood pressure medication are you on? I don't like it. Oh, my God.
What blood pressure medication are you on? I don't like it. Oh, my God.
What blood pressure medication are you on? I don't like it. Oh, my God.
Yeah. Like my friend's mom died of a stroke. If we were getting actual medical care, we would have known that she had high blood pressure. But instead, we were listening to the spirit. So that kind of stuff makes me really angry.
Yeah. Like my friend's mom died of a stroke. If we were getting actual medical care, we would have known that she had high blood pressure. But instead, we were listening to the spirit. So that kind of stuff makes me really angry.
Yeah. Like my friend's mom died of a stroke. If we were getting actual medical care, we would have known that she had high blood pressure. But instead, we were listening to the spirit. So that kind of stuff makes me really angry.
Turns out he had manic bipolar, which he also would have known if therapy was a thing or if medical psychology was a thing. So I ended up having a relationship with him. And then it kind of fell out because I didn't go live with him. I live with my sister. And then he had a huge episode, kept having episodes. He would get off his meds, on his meds, and then he started doing drugs.
Turns out he had manic bipolar, which he also would have known if therapy was a thing or if medical psychology was a thing. So I ended up having a relationship with him. And then it kind of fell out because I didn't go live with him. I live with my sister. And then he had a huge episode, kept having episodes. He would get off his meds, on his meds, and then he started doing drugs.
Turns out he had manic bipolar, which he also would have known if therapy was a thing or if medical psychology was a thing. So I ended up having a relationship with him. And then it kind of fell out because I didn't go live with him. I live with my sister. And then he had a huge episode, kept having episodes. He would get off his meds, on his meds, and then he started doing drugs.
And so now his brain is pretty fraught. Yeah. Oh, man. We still have a relationship with him. We love him. He comes over for dinner and everything, but he's just not the same guy.