Francis Foster

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I am completely with you on the fact that Iran should not be allowed to get nuclear weapons.

I don't think there's any evidence to suggest that they were ever likely to be able to hit Los Angeles or New York.

Tel Aviv, maybe.

No, I think that's Israel.

But nonetheless, I mean, I appreciate the president can't think in the terms that I'm about to describe, but nonetheless, is not a much more likely explanation of why Iran was seeking nuclear weapons is actually the reason that North Korea was seeking nuclear weapons, i.e.

to deter aggression from Israel, from the United States, and to prevent the very things happening now.

And the worry for some people is actually...

This conflict has created an incentive structure that will only accelerate the attempts to get nukes.

One of the other things that's become, you know, we've traveled around the United States many, many times before, but we've been here for a couple of weeks now, talking to all sorts of people on camera and off.

As you'll be aware, as we're recording this yesterday, a counterterrorism official resigned, Joe Kent.

And he's saying, I mean, I thought there were a lot of baseless things about Israel that he said in the statement, but broadly speaking, he's actually saying,

something that many people are now openly saying, which is that Israel and the United States have different objectives in this conflict.

And in fact, it is Israel's objectives that are being satisfied while Americans are not.

How do you square that?

Forgive me for interrupting, but how do you square that with Secretary Rubio's statements, which he sort of walked back?