Francis Foster

By the way, much later, the New York Times is founded as a Republican newspaper initially.

Funny how things start out.

So these progressives want to change the news.

The news should not be what the public wants to consume, right?

Because from the public's point of view,

You consume news for entertainment reasons and to help you make decisions.

Who do you vote for?

Where do you send your kids to school?

Is this a safe neighborhood to build a house in, to buy a house in, et cetera, et cetera, to make decisions.

And you don't necessarily expect the media to tell you what your values are.

You want to find those out on your own.

But there are a great number of intellectuals in this time period who want to tell you what your values are.

And they come out of a continental European idea of news.

And a great number of the early progressives actually studied in the socialist precincts of Germany in the late 19th century for longer or shorter periods.

and they're bringing these ideas with them.

This whole freewheeling, anything can happen, as long as we can prove it, we can report it, that whole ethos has to go away.

This needs to be calmed down and governed and run by adults.

And look, their criticisms are basically correct.

I mean, the newspapers were pretty wild.

They would say pretty outrageous things.