Franco Ordoñez
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But Trump's goal is to stop it now and then see what happens later.
And not only not only going back into Ukraine, but also expanding more into other countries, other European nations and even NATO countries. And of course, Trump has also talked about not being there for NATO, possibly even pulling out. So it is only gotten to be a bigger, bigger fear.
And not only not only going back into Ukraine, but also expanding more into other countries, other European nations and even NATO countries. And of course, Trump has also talked about not being there for NATO, possibly even pulling out. So it is only gotten to be a bigger, bigger fear.
And not only not only going back into Ukraine, but also expanding more into other countries, other European nations and even NATO countries. And of course, Trump has also talked about not being there for NATO, possibly even pulling out. So it is only gotten to be a bigger, bigger fear.
When I talk to folks about this and whether Ukraine is being excluded, the answer is absolutely yes. But they also see that Ukraine There's only going to be a deal if Russia and the United States can get on the same page. Now, is the United States going to steamroll over Ukraine? Is it going to steamroll over Europe?
When I talk to folks about this and whether Ukraine is being excluded, the answer is absolutely yes. But they also see that Ukraine There's only going to be a deal if Russia and the United States can get on the same page. Now, is the United States going to steamroll over Ukraine? Is it going to steamroll over Europe?
When I talk to folks about this and whether Ukraine is being excluded, the answer is absolutely yes. But they also see that Ukraine There's only going to be a deal if Russia and the United States can get on the same page. Now, is the United States going to steamroll over Ukraine? Is it going to steamroll over Europe?
Eventually, the United States is going to have to bring in Zelensky, going to have to bring in Europe. Zelensky has made very clear that he is not going to take just agree to any kind of deal. But, you know, what kind of deal is this going to shape into and what options does Zelensky actually have? At this point, Russia has already won so much.
Eventually, the United States is going to have to bring in Zelensky, going to have to bring in Europe. Zelensky has made very clear that he is not going to take just agree to any kind of deal. But, you know, what kind of deal is this going to shape into and what options does Zelensky actually have? At this point, Russia has already won so much.
Eventually, the United States is going to have to bring in Zelensky, going to have to bring in Europe. Zelensky has made very clear that he is not going to take just agree to any kind of deal. But, you know, what kind of deal is this going to shape into and what options does Zelensky actually have? At this point, Russia has already won so much.
So many concessions have already been given to Russia. before negotiations have really even starting. And probably most of all is just elevating Putin to be at this big boy table, which is something that the Biden administration tried to kind of isolate him. And now he's back in the spotlight.
So many concessions have already been given to Russia. before negotiations have really even starting. And probably most of all is just elevating Putin to be at this big boy table, which is something that the Biden administration tried to kind of isolate him. And now he's back in the spotlight.
So many concessions have already been given to Russia. before negotiations have really even starting. And probably most of all is just elevating Putin to be at this big boy table, which is something that the Biden administration tried to kind of isolate him. And now he's back in the spotlight.
Yeah. I mean, I was talking with, you know, folks who were there in Munich for that speech and they said there were tears in the room because they felt like, you know, Vance's speech was almost like a funeral for the relationship with Europe. I mean, in regards to like the White House intent, I mean, it's a new ballgame. And I think Greg was talking about this earlier.
Yeah. I mean, I was talking with, you know, folks who were there in Munich for that speech and they said there were tears in the room because they felt like, you know, Vance's speech was almost like a funeral for the relationship with Europe. I mean, in regards to like the White House intent, I mean, it's a new ballgame. And I think Greg was talking about this earlier.
Yeah. I mean, I was talking with, you know, folks who were there in Munich for that speech and they said there were tears in the room because they felt like, you know, Vance's speech was almost like a funeral for the relationship with Europe. I mean, in regards to like the White House intent, I mean, it's a new ballgame. And I think Greg was talking about this earlier.
There's no question that the arena has changed. I would argue that Trump is not isolating the U.S. I would actually probably say it's kind of the opposite. And the people I speak to, it is the opposite, but it is not on the terms that that Europe wants or that Europe has been accustomed to, or even the United States has been accustomed to.
There's no question that the arena has changed. I would argue that Trump is not isolating the U.S. I would actually probably say it's kind of the opposite. And the people I speak to, it is the opposite, but it is not on the terms that that Europe wants or that Europe has been accustomed to, or even the United States has been accustomed to.
There's no question that the arena has changed. I would argue that Trump is not isolating the U.S. I would actually probably say it's kind of the opposite. And the people I speak to, it is the opposite, but it is not on the terms that that Europe wants or that Europe has been accustomed to, or even the United States has been accustomed to.
It's a new world order, as some say, you know, that does away with all these multinational organizations like the WHO. the Paris Climate Agreement. It does away with working in collaboration with like-minded allies. Instead, as one former diplomat told me, that Trump is clearly now using the tools of his adversaries and looking to kind of build the U.S. sphere of influence much in ways that U.S.