Frank Dobbin

So when Ron DeSantis closed DEI offices in the University of Florida system— and fired a bunch of people, he was firing a bunch of Veterans Affairs officers as well as people who we think of traditionally as DEI officers. So to me, it's kind of surprising.

It would surprise me if there isn't some backlash within the right to try to turn back the challenge to accessibility since it covers so many veterans.

It would surprise me if there isn't some backlash within the right to try to turn back the challenge to accessibility since it covers so many veterans.

It would surprise me if there isn't some backlash within the right to try to turn back the challenge to accessibility since it covers so many veterans.

Well, so lots of training programs, pretty much every training program we look at helps to promote diversity if it's open to all employees. And increasingly, when firms put in training programs, they are open to all employees. For example, Walmart 10 years ago now put in a program to train all frontline workers online. And over the course of a couple of years, they trained everybody up.

Well, so lots of training programs, pretty much every training program we look at helps to promote diversity if it's open to all employees. And increasingly, when firms put in training programs, they are open to all employees. For example, Walmart 10 years ago now put in a program to train all frontline workers online. And over the course of a couple of years, they trained everybody up.

Well, so lots of training programs, pretty much every training program we look at helps to promote diversity if it's open to all employees. And increasingly, when firms put in training programs, they are open to all employees. For example, Walmart 10 years ago now put in a program to train all frontline workers online. And over the course of a couple of years, they trained everybody up.

And that clearly had an effect on the representation of people of color in their management ranks. Because it's not necessarily that their skills improved, but they also saw, hey, my employer is making a commitment to me. And since I've been trained, I'm more likely to get a promotion. So training of all sorts, even when it's not under the banner of DEI, is quite effective.

And that clearly had an effect on the representation of people of color in their management ranks. Because it's not necessarily that their skills improved, but they also saw, hey, my employer is making a commitment to me. And since I've been trained, I'm more likely to get a promotion. So training of all sorts, even when it's not under the banner of DEI, is quite effective.

And that clearly had an effect on the representation of people of color in their management ranks. Because it's not necessarily that their skills improved, but they also saw, hey, my employer is making a commitment to me. And since I've been trained, I'm more likely to get a promotion. So training of all sorts, even when it's not under the banner of DEI, is quite effective.

I mentioned mentoring programs before. When companies put in mentoring programs for everybody and ask everybody, please sign up to get a mentor voluntarily. Please sign up to be a mentor. It has very significant positive effects on the retention of women and people of color. And so we see for white women,

I mentioned mentoring programs before. When companies put in mentoring programs for everybody and ask everybody, please sign up to get a mentor voluntarily. Please sign up to be a mentor. It has very significant positive effects on the retention of women and people of color. And so we see for white women,

I mentioned mentoring programs before. When companies put in mentoring programs for everybody and ask everybody, please sign up to get a mentor voluntarily. Please sign up to be a mentor. It has very significant positive effects on the retention of women and people of color. And so we see for white women,

Black men and women, Hispanic men and women, Asian men and women, we see significant increases in their representation in firms and in management after a mentoring program goes into effect. I'll say just maybe two more things. Recruiting more broadly. So a lot of organizations...

Black men and women, Hispanic men and women, Asian men and women, we see significant increases in their representation in firms and in management after a mentoring program goes into effect. I'll say just maybe two more things. Recruiting more broadly. So a lot of organizations...

Black men and women, Hispanic men and women, Asian men and women, we see significant increases in their representation in firms and in management after a mentoring program goes into effect. I'll say just maybe two more things. Recruiting more broadly. So a lot of organizations...

in the last seven or eight years have recruited very broadly because we've had a tight labor market except for a couple of months during COVID. Employers are having trouble finding people to work. The national unemployment rate has been around 4%. In some labor markets, it's much tighter than that. Employers lose people for other jobs often, more often in the tight labor market.

in the last seven or eight years have recruited very broadly because we've had a tight labor market except for a couple of months during COVID. Employers are having trouble finding people to work. The national unemployment rate has been around 4%. In some labor markets, it's much tighter than that. Employers lose people for other jobs often, more often in the tight labor market.

in the last seven or eight years have recruited very broadly because we've had a tight labor market except for a couple of months during COVID. Employers are having trouble finding people to work. The national unemployment rate has been around 4%. In some labor markets, it's much tighter than that. Employers lose people for other jobs often, more often in the tight labor market.

So, more employers are recruiting more widely. So, if they used to go to, say, the colleges and high schools that their current staff graduated from, now they're going to all of the colleges and high schools in the area. And in many places, that means they're going to high schools in majority-minority neighborhoods. They're going to historically black colleges, to Hispanic-serving institutions.