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Frank Frigo

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181 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

When you see Andy Reid on the headset during a game, he's speaking to Mike Frazier up in the booth, and Mike Frazier was consulting our models.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

Yes, absolutely.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

When the Eagles adopted it, we worked very closely with their analytics staff.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

They had some of their own internal models, but they were basically calibrating everything off of ours because it was a lot more sophisticated.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

The real similarity of football to backgammon is that you score in these unusual increments, where in games like baseball, you're basically trying to produce runs and trying to keep your opponent from producing runs.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

And that correlates very, very well with win probability.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

Football's very different because you have a decaying clock and you score in different increments.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

So the utility of points changes dramatically based on the state of the game.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

And that's something that has been very, very well modeled in backgammon.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

Yeah, it's good.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

Good luck.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

I think of backgammon as a masochistic mindfulness.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

When I'm playing, I'm not thinking about anything else.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

Hours could go by.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

I forget to eat.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

I forget every other thing going on in my life.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

I'm going through all of these, you know, ups and downs and twists and turns.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

You're getting these little dopamine rushes.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

You know, you roll a good number, something goes well, it goes poorly.

Freakonomics Radio
677. Can Backgammon Save Us from Ourselves?

You feel alive.