Frank Turek

And as you pointed out in your rebuttal video, response video that you released earlier today, or maybe it was yesterday, with Bill Maher, even the... I mean, the date of the documents is important, but what's more important are the sources for the documents, Charlie.

As you explain, if you were to write a book or I were to write a book about 9-11 right now, which is about 23 years ago, it's more important that I'm interviewing people who saw it. That's more important than the date I'm writing it down right now in 2025. And that's what goes on with the New Testament.

As you explain, if you were to write a book or I were to write a book about 9-11 right now, which is about 23 years ago, it's more important that I'm interviewing people who saw it. That's more important than the date I'm writing it down right now in 2025. And that's what goes on with the New Testament.

The dates of these books are written during the lifetime of the eyewitnesses by eyewitnesses or people that knew eyewitnesses because they proved it by putting data in the text that only an eyewitness would know. But they're actually interviewing people if they weren't eyewitnesses themselves like Luke wasn't.

The dates of these books are written during the lifetime of the eyewitnesses by eyewitnesses or people that knew eyewitnesses because they proved it by putting data in the text that only an eyewitness would know. But they're actually interviewing people if they weren't eyewitnesses themselves like Luke wasn't.

They were interviewing people that were there and they're still alive when they're writing it. So this is eyewitness testimony. This material is telling us really what happened. And by the way, Charlie, they had no motive to make it up. They didn't get sex. They didn't get money. They didn't get power.

They were interviewing people that were there and they're still alive when they're writing it. So this is eyewitness testimony. This material is telling us really what happened. And by the way, Charlie, they had no motive to make it up. They didn't get sex. They didn't get money. They didn't get power.

All they got as former believers in Yahweh, just Jewish believers in Yahweh, is they got kicked out of the synagogue. They got beaten, tortured, and killed. That's why I thought your question when you asked him why would they fake the resurrection was brilliant, and he really didn't have a response because there is no answer. Why would they fake this to get themselves abused? They wouldn't.

All they got as former believers in Yahweh, just Jewish believers in Yahweh, is they got kicked out of the synagogue. They got beaten, tortured, and killed. That's why I thought your question when you asked him why would they fake the resurrection was brilliant, and he really didn't have a response because there is no answer. Why would they fake this to get themselves abused? They wouldn't.

Well, I think both you and I try and take the approach where we don't wanna try and own people. We wanna gently correct them and ask them a lot of questions because we want them walking away going, I wanna know more. We don't want them walking away from a interaction with us to say, oh man, I hated that guy. He made me look bad. You don't wanna do that. You wanna try and win people.

Well, I think both you and I try and take the approach where we don't wanna try and own people. We wanna gently correct them and ask them a lot of questions because we want them walking away going, I wanna know more. We don't want them walking away from a interaction with us to say, oh man, I hated that guy. He made me look bad. You don't wanna do that. You wanna try and win people.

Look, Charlie, as you know, when somebody asks you a question, you're not just answering a question, you're answering a person. And so you want to provide an opening for the next conversation. And what I try and ask people is if Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?

Look, Charlie, as you know, when somebody asks you a question, you're not just answering a question, you're answering a person. And so you want to provide an opening for the next conversation. And what I try and ask people is if Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?

And Charlie, I've had atheists stand at their microphone in front of hundreds of people on college campuses and say no, because they don't want it to be true. So I think that clears the deck of all the objections they could have. So I always ask that question. You asked a similar question to Bill. You asked him, hey, do you hope you were wrong? That kind of thing. That's what we need to take.

And Charlie, I've had atheists stand at their microphone in front of hundreds of people on college campuses and say no, because they don't want it to be true. So I think that clears the deck of all the objections they could have. So I always ask that question. You asked a similar question to Bill. You asked him, hey, do you hope you were wrong? That kind of thing. That's what we need to take.

We need to ask people questions, and we shouldn't expect people to agree with us. We should just ask questions, make points, and really highlight grace, Charlie, because grace is what people are looking for. Look, there's only two things you're going to get in the afterlife. You're either going to get justice or grace. There's no other category.

We need to ask people questions, and we shouldn't expect people to agree with us. We should just ask questions, make points, and really highlight grace, Charlie, because grace is what people are looking for. Look, there's only two things you're going to get in the afterlife. You're either going to get justice or grace. There's no other category.