Frank Turek

Well, actually, it was actually a novel from, I think, 1898 called The Futility. And it predated the Titanic just by chance. Nobody would say, well, the Titanic story then must be copied from this novel called Futility. It just happened to be that there were parallels. So parallels don't necessarily prove that one is copying from another anyway.

Well, actually, it was actually a novel from, I think, 1898 called The Futility. And it predated the Titanic just by chance. Nobody would say, well, the Titanic story then must be copied from this novel called Futility. It just happened to be that there were parallels. So parallels don't necessarily prove that one is copying from another anyway.

If there is one or two scholars out of many thousands, Charlie, in academia today who study this kind of material, and I'm not talking about Bible-believing Christians. There are atheists or New Testament scholars. If there's one or two out there, it's a lot who say Jesus never existed. I mean, think about this, Charlie.

If there is one or two scholars out of many thousands, Charlie, in academia today who study this kind of material, and I'm not talking about Bible-believing Christians. There are atheists or New Testament scholars. If there's one or two out there, it's a lot who say Jesus never existed. I mean, think about this, Charlie.

Jesus, inarguably, is the most influential human being to ever walk the earth. how could he possibly have never existed? It would be like somebody 2,000 years from now saying, Luke Skywalker is the most influential human being to ever walk the earth. Nobody 2,000 years from now is gonna take a fictitious character and say that person is the most influential human being on the earth.

Jesus, inarguably, is the most influential human being to ever walk the earth. how could he possibly have never existed? It would be like somebody 2,000 years from now saying, Luke Skywalker is the most influential human being to ever walk the earth. Nobody 2,000 years from now is gonna take a fictitious character and say that person is the most influential human being on the earth.

Not only that, but there are non-Christian sources, and you began to talk about this a little bit in your interview with Bill, Charlie, you didn't get a chance to complete the thought, But there are at least 10 ancient non-Christian sources within 150 years of Jesus' life that mention Jesus and or the apostles. People like Josephus, Suetonius, Thallus, Phlegon, Talmud, as you mentioned.

Not only that, but there are non-Christian sources, and you began to talk about this a little bit in your interview with Bill, Charlie, you didn't get a chance to complete the thought, But there are at least 10 ancient non-Christian sources within 150 years of Jesus' life that mention Jesus and or the apostles. People like Josephus, Suetonius, Thallus, Phlegon, Talmud, as you mentioned.

Josephus lived from 37 AD to about 100 AD, and he wrote several books related to the Jews. One's called Antiquities, another is called, it's about the Jewish War, is another one. And he mentions Jesus, he mentions John the Baptist, he mentions that James, the half-brother of Jesus, is killed as a martyr. He's the pastor of the church in Jerusalem, and he's killed in 62 AD.

Josephus lived from 37 AD to about 100 AD, and he wrote several books related to the Jews. One's called Antiquities, another is called, it's about the Jewish War, is another one. And he mentions Jesus, he mentions John the Baptist, he mentions that James, the half-brother of Jesus, is killed as a martyr. He's the pastor of the church in Jerusalem, and he's killed in 62 AD.

The Sanhedrin, the Jewish ruling council, threw him off the temple mount, and then they stoned him to death. Now, this is the same guy, by the way, Charlie, who wrote that little book in the New Testament called James.

The Sanhedrin, the Jewish ruling council, threw him off the temple mount, and then they stoned him to death. Now, this is the same guy, by the way, Charlie, who wrote that little book in the New Testament called James.

He's also the same guy who did not believe his brother was God before the resurrection, but then James had Jesus appear to him, and that's why he converted, and that's why he was later executed by the Jews in So Josephus has a lot of great information on some of the New Testament events. But let me hasten to say this, Charlie.

He's also the same guy who did not believe his brother was God before the resurrection, but then James had Jesus appear to him, and that's why he converted, and that's why he was later executed by the Jews in So Josephus has a lot of great information on some of the New Testament events. But let me hasten to say this, Charlie.

The best evidence for Jesus is in what we call the New Testament documents. And you don't have to assume that. that they are inspired to get good historical information out of them. Even atheists like Bart Ehrman, who teaches here where I am in North Carolina, UNC Chapel Hill, he admits that Jesus existed.

The best evidence for Jesus is in what we call the New Testament documents. And you don't have to assume that. that they are inspired to get good historical information out of them. Even atheists like Bart Ehrman, who teaches here where I am in North Carolina, UNC Chapel Hill, he admits that Jesus existed.

He said probably one of the most attested to facts from ancient history is the crucifixion of Jesus. Of course, he doesn't believe in the resurrection, but there's virtually no scholars out there who say Jesus never rose from the dead, or I should say never existed, which is why when Bill tried to say that, it's,

He said probably one of the most attested to facts from ancient history is the crucifixion of Jesus. Of course, he doesn't believe in the resurrection, but there's virtually no scholars out there who say Jesus never rose from the dead, or I should say never existed, which is why when Bill tried to say that, it's,

No, because Paul makes it very clear that he's talking about a resurrected body, a body that comes out of the tomb. It would have been easy to say Jesus resurrected spiritually. Then you wouldn't have to, you know, he could, his body could still be in the tomb and you can still say, oh, He resurrected spiritually. But that wasn't the case.

No, because Paul makes it very clear that he's talking about a resurrected body, a body that comes out of the tomb. It would have been easy to say Jesus resurrected spiritually. Then you wouldn't have to, you know, he could, his body could still be in the tomb and you can still say, oh, He resurrected spiritually. But that wasn't the case.