Frank Turek

I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

Who did pay for this trip?

Who did pay for this trip?

Yeah. Charlie, you took the right approach with bill. You were very kind to him. You could have said a lot more, but as you say, when you're on a podcast, somebody else's podcast, you want to give them the benefit of the doubt. You just, you want to get a few points in, but you don't want to make it a monologue as to why the guy's wrong.

Yeah. Charlie, you took the right approach with bill. You were very kind to him. You could have said a lot more, but as you say, when you're on a podcast, somebody else's podcast, you want to give them the benefit of the doubt. You just, you want to get a few points in, but you don't want to make it a monologue as to why the guy's wrong.

I'm going to take something that is so anti intellectual, even though I can argue like an intellect.

I'm going to take something that is so anti intellectual, even though I can argue like an intellect.

No, not at all. In fact, the Bible continually tells us to give reasons for what we believe. And of course, even Yahweh in the Old Testament says, come, let us reason together. You know, Charlie, one of the things that atheists cannot answer can not actually give a cause for is reason itself.

No, not at all. In fact, the Bible continually tells us to give reasons for what we believe. And of course, even Yahweh in the Old Testament says, come, let us reason together. You know, Charlie, one of the things that atheists cannot answer can not actually give a cause for is reason itself.

I mean, if we're just molecules in motion, if we're just molecular machines, if we're nothing but moist robots, which is the common view of most materialists today, most atheists today, then they shouldn't even believe anything they think. because every thought they have is the result of the laws of physics. They're not really thinking, they're reacting. And C.S.

I mean, if we're just molecules in motion, if we're just molecular machines, if we're nothing but moist robots, which is the common view of most materialists today, most atheists today, then they shouldn't even believe anything they think. because every thought they have is the result of the laws of physics. They're not really thinking, they're reacting. And C.S.

Lewis pointed this out brilliantly in so many of his works, that if materialism's true, there's no way to even justify thinking. There's no way to justify reason. And if you can't justify thinking, you can't call a Christian anti-intellectual, because you haven't, as an atheist, even explained our ability to think and reason.

Lewis pointed this out brilliantly in so many of his works, that if materialism's true, there's no way to even justify thinking. There's no way to justify reason. And if you can't justify thinking, you can't call a Christian anti-intellectual, because you haven't, as an atheist, even explained our ability to think and reason.

Well, we have a whole section, and I don't have enough faith to be an atheist about that. It's just not true. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true, okay? About the only dying and rising God prior to Christianity was Osiris from Egypt, and that wasn't a resurrection into a new body. That was a kind of ethereal resurrection into the underworld.

Well, we have a whole section, and I don't have enough faith to be an atheist about that. It's just not true. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true, okay? About the only dying and rising God prior to Christianity was Osiris from Egypt, and that wasn't a resurrection into a new body. That was a kind of ethereal resurrection into the underworld.

That's not what the New Testament's talking about. In fact, almost all of these supposed dying and rising gods come after Christianity, not before. So if anyone's copying from anyone, it's not Christianity copying from pagan resurrection myths. It's the pagan resurrection myths copying from Christianity. But, you know, as C.S. Lewis also pointed out,

That's not what the New Testament's talking about. In fact, almost all of these supposed dying and rising gods come after Christianity, not before. So if anyone's copying from anyone, it's not Christianity copying from pagan resurrection myths. It's the pagan resurrection myths copying from Christianity. But, you know, as C.S. Lewis also pointed out,

Just because you have a parallel between two stories doesn't mean one is copied from another. In fact, there was a ship, Charlie, I don't know if you heard about it. It made its maiden voyage from the UK back in the early 1900s. It hit an iceberg. A lot of people died. And of course, you're going to say, well, Frank, of course, that was the Titanic.

Just because you have a parallel between two stories doesn't mean one is copied from another. In fact, there was a ship, Charlie, I don't know if you heard about it. It made its maiden voyage from the UK back in the early 1900s. It hit an iceberg. A lot of people died. And of course, you're going to say, well, Frank, of course, that was the Titanic.