Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Fred Thiel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
140 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

If you look at Bitcoin mining, it costs you a little over a million dollars a megawatt for infrastructure and miners.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

Infrastructure alone in the data center world is 12 million a megawatt.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

The amount of compute that is deployed today versus what will be deployed in five years, it's never getting shut off.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And one word of warning from an investment perspective.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

Yeah, I think if you look at the big demand right now for energy is from obviously the HPCAI sector.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And they need energy that is on now and not on in 2029.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And if you're trying to get access to 500 megawatts of power and you get in a queue, you're not going to get it anytime soon.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

So the hyperscalers are now very focused, as are the neoclouds, on looking at, okay, I don't need a one gigawatt data center.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

I need anything north of 100 megawatts, which has the ability to grow, and I need the power to be on already, because there are two issues that impact a hyperscaler's ability to bring capacity online, and realize the timing of when they bring their site online is more important than when it costs them to bring it online.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

because it's all about a capacity war.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

Who has GPUs running?

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

It's not about necessarily the specific type of GPU, but it's who has stuff running, because the more stuff you have running, the smarter your model is, the more you can do, right?

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

So permitting is the second problem.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

So you may have the ability to take powered land and build a hyperscaler site on it.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

But if that county has a moratorium, won't allow you to build a big hyperscaler center.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

It's an issue.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

And I think what you're going to see now is a huge amount of innovation around what defines a data center and how they're built.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

That is going to make it much more attractive for hyperscalers to talk to people like us who have, you know, over gigawatt of power that's turned on and ready to go.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

So we have one point one gigawatts of power that's operating as Bitcoin mining today.

The Pomp Podcast
Largest Bitcoin Miner Predicts Next Bitcoin Bull Run | Fred Thiel

We have another 700 megawatts of power that is used.

โ† Previous Page 1 of 7 Next โ†’