Friedberg

I'm not sure Harvard is really known for anything other than for being quote unquote elite, but even that's questionable now. But in the technical areas... I really do think that MIT was an important place where people would go to train. And I just want to make sure whoever they're letting in actually cares about the thing they're studying.

I'm not sure Harvard is really known for anything other than for being quote unquote elite, but even that's questionable now. But in the technical areas... I really do think that MIT was an important place where people would go to train. And I just want to make sure whoever they're letting in actually cares about the thing they're studying.

I think what would be much more valuable than all of this is for companies to hire from a whole bunch of different schools than they do today, and to break the back of this elitist culture we have around certain schools. All of the things that you guys are talking about to me sound kind of crazy.

I think what would be much more valuable than all of this is for companies to hire from a whole bunch of different schools than they do today, and to break the back of this elitist culture we have around certain schools. All of the things that you guys are talking about to me sound kind of crazy.

And the reason is because you could go to Iowa State or you could go to Harvard and you could make a claim, and I would buy it, that in some random social science, maybe there's an advantage in the people that you meet. But there's not necessarily an advantage for studying physics at any of these two schools.

And the reason is because you could go to Iowa State or you could go to Harvard and you could make a claim, and I would buy it, that in some random social science, maybe there's an advantage in the people that you meet. But there's not necessarily an advantage for studying physics at any of these two schools.

It's not like one's teaching you that gravity goes up and the other teaches you that gravity goes down. So I think the bigger problem is that we don't value enough these fundamentally important skills that we need for humanity to evolve. And then number two, we have fallen to this trap of saying that these schools, these highly credentialed schools that cost 60 and 70 and $80,000 a year,

It's not like one's teaching you that gravity goes up and the other teaches you that gravity goes down. So I think the bigger problem is that we don't value enough these fundamentally important skills that we need for humanity to evolve. And then number two, we have fallen to this trap of saying that these schools, these highly credentialed schools that cost 60 and 70 and $80,000 a year,

graduate the best kids. And I don't think that that's true either. So the thing that we could all do, because we're all hirers, we hire thousands of people, is we should be going to all kinds of different schools. Today, I just gave an offer to a guy that went to Virginia Tech. And this kid seems awesome. kick ass.

graduate the best kids. And I don't think that that's true either. So the thing that we could all do, because we're all hirers, we hire thousands of people, is we should be going to all kinds of different schools. Today, I just gave an offer to a guy that went to Virginia Tech. And this kid seems awesome. kick ass.

And when we put out job postings for 8090, we veer towards these schools that are like hardcore technical places where none of all of this random credentialed nonsense gets in the way. And so they're hungrier as a result, they're more earnest, and you can cut through the BS. The other thing I would say is that it's even more...

And when we put out job postings for 8090, we veer towards these schools that are like hardcore technical places where none of all of this random credentialed nonsense gets in the way. And so they're hungrier as a result, they're more earnest, and you can cut through the BS. The other thing I would say is that it's even more...

capable now of getting through the filter of these credentials and knowing the quality of a person. You can look at GitHub repos, if you're a developer, you can look at all of these things that allow you to understand. So I don't know, I disagree with your guys's thing of like, let's go figure out all these other things. How about we stop hiring people

capable now of getting through the filter of these credentials and knowing the quality of a person. You can look at GitHub repos, if you're a developer, you can look at all of these things that allow you to understand. So I don't know, I disagree with your guys's thing of like, let's go figure out all these other things. How about we stop hiring people

and valuing randomly non-specific degrees just because they come from a good school.

and valuing randomly non-specific degrees just because they come from a good school.

No, but I'm saying if your son or daughter were to go and study computer science at North Carolina State, the biggest thing that you could do is be okay with it. Another example of a school that does a great job of recruiting from non-traditional places. Why would I not be okay with it? No, no, this is my point. I think it's a decision.

No, but I'm saying if your son or daughter were to go and study computer science at North Carolina State, the biggest thing that you could do is be okay with it. Another example of a school that does a great job of recruiting from non-traditional places. Why would I not be okay with it? No, no, this is my point. I think it's a decision.

I'm saying that I'm not saying that you are, but I'm saying that if you make it a big deal, that North Carolina State is somehow worse than some other credentialed school because our social cohort says that those other schools are better. We're part of the problem.

I'm saying that I'm not saying that you are, but I'm saying that if you make it a big deal, that North Carolina State is somehow worse than some other credentialed school because our social cohort says that those other schools are better. We're part of the problem.