Fumi Abe

That's his name to fame.

Right.

And if he liked you, you could come in for late night, which is like you come at like 10 on like a Tuesday.

And you could do five minutes for people who are like, they're done watching the show.

Yeah.

But if they stay, they get free tickets or something.

Right.

And then there's 10 comedians doing five.

So it's 50 additional minutes.

Oh, wow.

so i remember like doing that but then like you would always forget who i was and then i was like i was and i lived in brooklyn so it was like really far away from me so i was like i don't i can't i can't do this and so i was doing a lot of like indie shows when i was there right and i i felt like as long as i was getting stage time like i really i still feel that way now like i didn't really care like where if it was near a comedy club or if it's like a really well-produced independent show i didn't care like i just wanted to get better find my voice find my audience so that was my attitude like the first five to seven years yeah um

but, but you can do that in New York.

You don't have to be, I think sometimes if you start in like, I don't know, Minneapolis or something, you might have to be at the club because a lot of places doing comedy, but people were doing so many shows in so many different spots all around and LA.

So just, that was nice.

Those are fire.

I mean, I remember my goal when I was a younger comedian was like, it wasn't like seller.

It was like, I just wanted to do the knitting factory.

Hannibal Buress had that show, and then he gave it to some other people.

And to me, that was like, if I can just get on that Sunday show, that's free, and you get paid like 20 bucks.

If I could just get on that.