Gabby Logan

Imagine that, just being like, do you know what?

Because you forget they're young guys.

They don't have all this belief.

And someone like him going, I'm done, you're perfection.

And you're going into that the next game going, I think we're bloody perfectionists.

Not that I'm expecting you to know anything, but I'm slightly obsessed with... Ben White's probably not a good example, but hearing about footballers or any sports person who's made it to the top who aren't in love with that sport, I just don't get.

Because the hours you have to put in, you can be brilliant, but if you haven't put hours in, how on earth do they do it?

Yeah.

How do you do it?

Like, I remember reading about the...

Arsenal and Spurs wing.

I can't remember his name.

He retired at 27 because he's like, oh, I can't be bothered with this.

Bentley.

Bentley, yeah.

He's really good.

And he was like Beckham's understudy, wasn't he?

He was like the whipping the balls in.

And he just got 27, still fit as a fiddle, went...

He's so mad.