Gabby Logan

That seems to be an area that really has been bountiful for you in terms of helping people.

That life has moved on.

That poem, which is the one that you would have heard if you're not familiar with it, in Four Weddings and a Funeral, it was used, wasn't it?

Stop the Clock.

I love that poem.

It's an amazing poem.

But also, very simple.

Yeah, it is simple.

Going back to the snobbery kind of... I imagine at the time, was W.H.

Auden being criticised for writing simple poetry?

However, I try... But that's very well used, obviously.

Well, you are and you've written a book about joy as well.

And, you know, To the Women, which you've just read from, is a beautiful book that's not all about grief at all.

So, you know, you have a whole range.

But also, I think grief has so many different shades, doesn't it?

Because if you're at the funeral of a remarkable 95-year-old who led the most tremendous life, who was loved by their family, who created great things and never kind of had a regret about their life, my God, that's joyful, isn't it?

That's an amazing experience.

You're celebrating a life well-lived.

So there are different shades and different feelings.

What's been the most remarkable kind of live performance in terms of looking at an audience or, God, I can't believe this is my life now.