Gabby Logan

And I think you could do a lot worse than pick up one of Donna's books and open it up.

And if you read one of her poems to yourself or out loud, then I think that would be a very good way to start unpicking.

Donna, you are an absolute force.

It's amazing to have you on the podcast.

Thank you so, so much for being so generous in reading that beautiful poem, Warrior.

And also just for continuing to deliver such positivity and optimism as you do to the world.

optimism i cannot wait to hear oh thank you so much for having me and you'll be the first person that i tell when i'm allowed to um you say it on social media yeah and and then we can all find out it's been a joy what a joy to be here thank you thank you and now fly yourself back to that beautiful place

Hello and welcome to The Midpoint.

My guest today is a serious news broadcaster, but I met her for the first time on Have I Got News For You last year, so I know she's also got a very healthy funny bone too.

A teenage Cathy Newman was on her way to becoming a violinist or a lawyer until she was inspired by the incredible broadcaster Kate Adie, synonymous with war zones and disaster reporting in the 80s and 90s.

And then Cathy decided she too wanted to become a journalist.

She graduated from Oxford University and worked her way up through newspapers at first, The Guardian, The Independent and then the FT.

And at just 23 years old, she was a political correspondent.

She began her TV career in 2000 and in 2006 joined Channel 4, where she has been for the last two decades.

at the heart of many important campaigns, showing her skills as an investigative journalist time and time again on stories about political impropriety, sexism in the corridors of power and paedophilia, to name a few.

She shone a light on so many important topics and has carried on writing as well.

Her book, Bloody Brilliant Women, was highly acclaimed and is well worth a read.

In January, it was announced she's leaving Channel 4 and heading to Sky to be the host of their 7 o'clock daily politics show.

taking on new podcasts and leading more special investigations for them.

And I'm really excited about chatting to Cathy.