Gabby Logan

Doing it for everybody else.

So those things don't worry you so much.

you know you're riding through it maybe I forced maybe maybe your mum didn't talk to you about it because she didn't really have yeah because my mum maintains that she said I had extra Bacardi and Cokes and dark chocolate she said that's what her I love that yeah her recipe the new HRT or the old HRT that was her let's bring it back she had this conversation at my 50th birthday party with Denise Lewis and she said I don't know why she's going on about the menopause all the time I just had an extra Bacardi and Coke and a square of dark chocolate and she won't mind me saying that because she's quite proud of it

That's what my kids would say, Queen.

Or Slag.

Yeah, and she's from Leeds, which you might remember as the accent because you've lived in Leeds.

No, it doesn't always work.

Is your show, you don't want to be London-centric, you're based in the South.

How are you going to represent the whole nation?

And finally, in a world of chaos and, you know, we lurch from one disaster and one war to the next and every time, you know, we kind of wake up in the morning and think, what's happened overnight now?

For a lot of people, it's turning the news off is the answer.

They don't want to hear any more bad news.

I think most of us want to feel informed and we want to feel that we have an idea of what's going on.

But it's still...

even if you try and be kind of resilient and put a coat of armour there, it can get to you.

Walking around town today, because I did some other podcasts for a sports podcast I do, walking through, there were some lovely scenes in the street, you know, and it's so easy to ignore those things, isn't it?

Or to not to not see them anymore because we're told to look out for somebody nicking our phone or we're told to look out for somebody coming up behind us and, you know, grabbing our bag.

And, you know, my kids don't live in London and they've got this terrible impression of what life is like in London when they see all these stories.

on TikTok and things.

You've got to leaven the load of this grim time that we're living through.