Gabby Logan

Yeah, and it is so important, isn't it, to have consistency in that.

But it's really hard to have consistency.

And I know you've been struggling a bit lately, Lois, haven't you, with motivation?

Yeah, a little bit.

So I thought it was a good, honest discussion about what that means.

You agree, Lois?

You've had to, in your career as a sportsman, obviously, use different tools to motivate you.

What was your main go-to in terms of putting yourself even in a more challenging place?

It feels like, to me at the moment, Lois, you're at that stage where you're coming towards the end of your second year at university.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to mark every comment out of ten.

Very good, Kenny.

She did a lot.

No, she went till after.

Hmm, that was good.

No, there's just an edit point there so we can snip it out.

No, I'm joking.

No, that's your... As you said at the very beginning of that, that's your journey.

So I'm agreeing with you in the sense that, you know, I can see that.

Yeah, the variations in motivation.

But you're at a really kind of interesting period because you're coming towards the end of your second year at university.