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Chapter 1: Who are the guests in this family special episode?
Well, today on The Midpoint, I'm delighted to say I have some familiar guests, but they haven't been on for a while. So it is a very big welcome back to The Midpoint to Lois Logan and Kenny Logan, a.k.a. I'm going to say my name first. Yeah, I know. You're most important. AKA the family. Thank you for having us on. Yeah.
And I like how you're swinging in the chairs because you've not been in this studio before.
I feel like I'm at school.
Jesus, I don't want to go back to school. Let's not go down that road. Let's not. We haven't done a podcast in the studio because we normally do them in the familiar surroundings of the home studio. And I've brought you into deepest darkness. Darkest London. You're in Soho. No, I brought Lois a scone from Gales. Other lovely high street bakeries are available.
But it's a big deal for Lois to come into London, isn't it? Yeah, you're right, Lois.
No, it's fine. You are not... I actually today quite like London because it's quite vibrant here in Soho. But no, I don't particularly love London. Cities generally.
Why?
It's just quite overwhelming. A lot of people. And it's just like, oh, he's going to run out in front of the car now.
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Chapter 2: What challenges does Lois face as a university student?
Stop! You know?
We came to London. You weren't with us. We came to watch the famous Palladium Panto.
That was good.
Yeah, pre-Christmas, which you have to come to London to see that because it's at the Palladium. And Julian Clary, your pal, was in it. And we were walking down from the Tube down Regent Street and she was, Lois was next to me, she just went...
Oh, God, I hate this. There were so many people. Okay, I sound really sort of... Weird. No, I mean, I'm sure there's lots of people that can understand the feeling. It's just like, oh, people are stepping on my toes.
Have you seen the shoes you've got on today, though?
Yeah, I've got the wrong shoes on today.
They're not actually shoes.
She's wearing ballet shoes. I do, I do, I can appreciate London in... Today is nice, you know, Soho's lovely, but when it's Christmas time and it's all, it's just, there's a lot, there's a lot. But I think you're also... Oh, sorry, I'm kind of scared someone's going to mug my handbag on my phone now. You've been watching too much... I'm like, my arm's clamped under my shoulder.
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Chapter 3: How does Kenny view the impact of technology on communication?
I shouldn't say that without verifying it.
Yes.
But I did see some statistics the other day. Fake news, was it? In an article describing how hysteria can lead to hysteria. And actually, you, I'm sure, have fed a lot of stuff in your algorithm about keeping your phone. And it's true. You should keep your phone in the right place. We all know people who have had their phone nicked off them and things. That's the thing.
We all know people that have had their phone nicked off them.
Okay, so anecdotally, things aren't great.
No.
But you are definitely, if you had to put you into a group, you are somebody who loves nature, countryside.
I'm very happy to just be alone in a field with a horse or a cow.
As long as the grass is good. And yet you are unbelievably good at being with people and socialising. So you're kind of a real paradox. Is it very hard for you? To socialise?
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Chapter 4: What unique family experiences do they share?
With some sleepy tea. That's your mum. I mean, I'm 20. It's a bit embarrassing, really. No. But then I do go out sometimes. I know you do, yeah.
You pick the perfect university, though.
Yeah. I know there are lots of... It's nice and coddled.
Yeah.
Loughborough is so sporty that it's not unusual for people to go to bed with a cup of tea at 8 o'clock because they've got a race in the morning.
Yeah, that's the thing. That is nice about it. And I still go to Nottingham and stuff for a night out. Actually, quite obviously, the life at Nottingham is much better. But yeah, I like a pub. I like a conversation. I don't really like to come home and feel my eardrums for the next 24 hours.
That's what happens at home. Since you've left, that's what happens.
We had a very sociable weekend because Lois' boyfriend's cams, the South African golfer, as the Daily Telegraph called him. I think it's hello, actually. Was it hello? He brought his family, his whole family. His lovely mum and dad and brother and sister for the first time came round. Sorry, sister-in-law, potentially.
His brother and his brother's girlfriend came round for lunch, which was really lovely. First time that's ever happened. That was quite a lot, wasn't it?
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Chapter 5: How do they discuss the concept of motivation?
Because we had my family there as well.
Not really for me. I don't find stuff like that overwhelming at all. Well, it's like 12 people. Well, maybe it was a lot for you, but not for me. I suppose you're the one that did all the cooking, so maybe it was a lot for you.
I did the cleaning up. Did you feel at all worried about that, that your boyfriend's parents were coming around for the first time? I mean, it has been four years.
Yeah, not really. I was looking forward to it. I mean, there's always that bit of, like, I hope you guys get on.
I was a bit worried that there was going to be, like, bouts of awkward silence, because that's where I think in social situations I'm not very good, because I like to just feel silence, and often I find myself oversharing, and I walk away from a conversation and go, I just met that person, and they know that my dog died when I was seven now. You know, so sometimes I'm like, oh.
Too much. I'm a wee bit like that.
Yeah, because I would call myself a... I don't know, I once did a test at school and it said I was an extrovert. But then I sometimes think, I don't know, I'm extroverted when I am in a social setting. But then I'm also quite happy to be yourself.
I'm very similar to you because I like being... You're very extroverted. No, no, but I like... You work a room. Hang on a second. I like to be outside on my own doing stuff. From the point of view of how you said being with animals, I love all that. And when I was younger, I felt I needed to be with people.
Now, I quite enjoy not being with people and just being on my own in the garden, doing stuff, and plodding away all day. And that's really good for my own inner mind.
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Chapter 6: What personal goals does Kenny reflect on?
You have to use your interpersonal skills all the time. I don't mind doing that. Yeah, so it's probably the antidote or the obverse of that is how you get your mental release and your downtime. Right, well, what I really want to talk about today is not Lois's personality type, but whether or not she... Someone let me know. I don't know. Whether she likes cities or not.
What's your favourite city, by the way?
I mean, I haven't been since I was what, like eight? But I really like Rome. To where? Oh, Rome. Yeah, I really like Rome. You've only been there once. Paris? Should we go back to Rome? Oh, Paris. I love Paris. But anything with a bit of... I know that London obviously does have culture, but anything with really old sort of... So you liked Rome.
You made a great observation when we were in Rome. We were walking along the street and we did all the touristy things, obviously. And I had a hold of your hands, obviously. And you said to me, oh, everybody smokes in Italy. And you said, and they all smoke in my face. Because what I realized was people hold their cigarettes.
down at waist level and you were just walking that is the one thing I do really remember from Rome is how bad it stank of smoke but I think if I went back there now I wouldn't I was at the height of you do notice it I notice it because I travel in Europe a lot in restaurants and stuff in certain places but not in others we were talking about this the other day I think in cafes they are
You sort of seem to be smoking maybe they're outside.
Outside, not inside. We were in Belgrade, which I know is not exactly going to lead the way in anti-smoking, at the World Indoor Athletics Championships a few years ago. Smoking Championship. They were smoking inside the athletics stadium.
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Chapter 7: How does Lois feel about societal pressures on young adults?
It was indoors.
I mean, that's mental. But I was telling those about when they used to smoke at the back of the plane. Remember that? Yeah. Pull a curtain across.
Yeah, I think, well, my generation doesn't really smoke, so. No. Vapours? Well, obviously there's a lot. I mean, less so now. More when we were 15. Not me. Never me. But genuinely, never me. Not interested in flavoured juice. You did.
You didn't want to try somebody's.
Yeah, I definitely tried a vape. I used to make me feel quite sick, so I stopped. I actually never started. I was going to say, I stopped after one.
I stopped after one blow of, yeah, it's not my thing. See, I told you I get loads of secrets. You have, yeah.
Losses of paper.
I'm going to be grounded. Careful, the clickbait.
We don't want any clickbait here, do we, Lois? Yeah, I don't want any clickbait.
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Chapter 8: What final thoughts do they have on finding motivation in daily life?
Lois was... Mum outed me. I had a podcast episode with Jenny Faulkner and just very much in passing said about how Lois had found out that she'd had polycystic ovaries and that's why she'd stopped doing intense running. And this was turned into an article in a well-known daily newspaper... that might have Daley in the title. Might, yeah.
As Lois's... I have a suffering of chronic health issue. And then they said, never going to be able to do any sort of... Oh, it's going to affect my career as the athlete that I am. And, yeah, I was slightly furious with it. It also said that I had facial hair. I was going to gain excessive weight.
It was news to me. I was like, am I? Wow. Because you, the reason why I know I didn't mind mentioning it is because when we first came out of the appointment where you'd kind of found out, you said, oh, I want to do a podcast on this. Did I? Yeah, obviously you haven't. But you said, because I didn't know anything about this, and 25% of women have polycystic ovaries. Yeah, one in five women.
And it can lead often to endometriosis for some people, which is another condition.
Do you have it? Do you can get it lit on?
It's a genetic condition. We're both not scientists. It also doesn't lead to endometriosis.
You can mean you have endometriosis as well, potentially. Your stats are wrong today.
Let's edit that bit out. Let's not get scientific, Gabby, because you're not a scientist. I've spoken to a few people who have PCOS, and it's very freeing to know you have it, because all these things that you've had. And also, like anything, it comes in different shapes and sizes, so I don't have a hairy face. I've not gained excessive weight.
You know, I look, I kind of look normal and healthy, but there are all these things that are happening with my hormones that are not different to most women because one in five women have it. So, yeah, I just feel like it's a shame that it wasn't something I never learned about at school. Yeah, and it's a shame that there was a, you know, essentially a piece of cannon fodder made about.
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