Gabby Logan

She prefers the family episodes to all other episodes.

Guys, thanks very much for coming on The Midpoint.

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We might have to lose you though, Kenny.

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Because you're such a drain.

You're such a drain.

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Hello and welcome to The Midpoint.

My guest today is someone who by her own admission is having something of a later life renaissance.

Her second act is going very well indeed and not in a way she could have ever predicted.

Hilary Whitehouse was an actress looking for an agent when she went for a coffee with Michael Whitehouse.

He wanted a wife, not just a client.

He was 21 years older than her and divorced.

But it turned out to be not just a professional match made in heaven, but a personal one too.

40 years later, they are still going strong.

Although the business and family continue to be entwined.

One of their three children is a certain Jack Whitehall, who's made his father and his family a central tenant of his comedy over the last 15 years or so.

As a result, Hilary's acting roles in the likes of Miranda and Bad Education might not have brought her as much attention as her podcast The Wittering Whitehalls and the role of being Jack's mum.

But Hilary is also keen to talk about another new role which she stepped into, being a grandma and how that and being a mother-in-law have been more life-changing than any of her later life fame.