Gabriel Gatehouse

And so there was and they were kind of seen as standoffish.

There wasn't a lot of love for the England team there.

I mean, it's interesting what you say, David, about having an asset in the hotel.

This is exactly what we looked into there.

And one of the questions, and we went to Guadalajara, we went to the hotel, we spoke to people who worked there.

We also went to Mexico City.

We looked at the archives of the Mexican secret police because my feeling was, and this was also the steer I was getting from former intelligence people that I was talking to, was that they weren't going to send some gringo into the kitchens of the Guadalajara Hilton, right?

They'd have a local agent in there.

Is that a fair assumption?

So non-lethal toxins.

Right.

So again, I was helped in my slightly crazy endeavor by the wonderful openness of the American system, the American political system.

And the wonderful thing is that Watergate and the fallout from Watergate.

Led to all of these hearings in Congress about what the CIA Was really up to started with the Church Committee hearings Senator Frank Church in 1975 who really started looking into what the CIA had been up to and I thought a lot of it was about kind of assassinations and stuff and

But in fact, what I didn't realize until I started doing this investigation was that the very first hearing that the church committee held in 1975 was into the CIA's use of toxins.

That was the first thing.

And they got very exercised about the fact that the CIA had, against a specific presidential order, President Nixon had ordered the destruction of all of America's biological agents.

He basically said the United States is going to get out of the biological warfare game.

And the CIA, who had a nice little stash of shellfish toxin and cobra venom and other exotic things that Sidney Gottlieb had prepared, were like, well, we've spent years developing this stuff.

We're not just going to chuck it out.