Gabriel Mizrahi

I was talking to you.

Yeah, correct.

But I was showing you which one she fixed and she did a perfect job on it.

That is one bracelet bracelet you're wearing.

It is.

I can vouch for that.

Second, though, I totally agree with everything you just said, Jordan.

That was very well put.

I'm sure you would agree that all of our beliefs, including our secular beliefs, whether it's politics or culture or science, for that matter.

They all need to be interrogated and revised over and over again, or at least our relationship with them does.

We talk about religious beliefs like they're a different class of belief.

But when you listen to people talk about who they're voting for, what they will believe is important in life or whatever, it can often sound like a religion.

So I think we can kind of get snagged around almost anything.

So it's important to be open to reconsidering pretty much everything.

But about what I said on that episode, the reason I thought it was important for her to see someone outside of her community was not that I was trying to steer her away from Christianity.

It was that I felt she needed someone who could be more objective and non-judgmental given how afraid she was to talk about this really big thing she had been through.

And also someone whose primary interest would be in treating her and facilitating a process where she could work through this pain and these very big questions she had.

rather than someone whose main goal might be interpreting what she had done through the lens of their system or, you know, trying to keep her in the fold or get her to double down on her existing beliefs or whatever.

I can see how that sounds a lot like, I don't want you to believe what you believe.

I want you to see someone who's, you know, going to poke holes in your beliefs, but that is actually not what I meant.