Gabriel Mizrahi

And you're sure that's what the rabbi meant when he said that?

This story you just told, which sounds pretty absurd, I guess I have a couple of thoughts.

One is people are flawed and they can say whatever they want and they can interpret their doctrine however they want.

And so if that's the way this guy feels, that's the way this guy feels.

It's not what I happen to know about Judaism.

In fact, this question of why...

bad things happen to good people is one of the most interesting questions that gets explored in Judaism.

I remember when I was in high school, I went to a Jewish liberal high school, like pretty mainstream, but Jewish.

And so we had to take Jewish studies and philosophy and stuff.

And I remember tackling that exact question.

And the little bit we studied when we were 16 years old was much more nuanced and much more interesting than the take that you just shared with us.

So I'm a little bit surprised.

To hear it, but again, people from all faiths can say all sorts of things.

I guess it really comes down to the practitioners in question.

Like we've been saying, advocating for conventional therapy is not about convincing someone not to believe what they believe.

To me, it's the opposite in many ways.

It's about how big can we make the frame?

Can we embark on a journey that might take us to places we can't anticipate, but which will be fruitful and which will be rewarding and interesting instead of trying to get you to a specific answer or outcome according to the Bible as I interpret it.

That just does not seem particularly controversial.

Hi, Gabe and Jordan.