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Gad Barnea

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1101 total appearances

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Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

Right. What I argue is that some of the biblical text is kind of arguing against these Greek sources. Right. But they might reflect certain traditions that were oral traditions among the Jews of Alexandria, for example, at the time. They might reflect all kinds of other traditions that we're not familiar with.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

Right. What I argue is that some of the biblical text is kind of arguing against these Greek sources. Right. But they might reflect certain traditions that were oral traditions among the Jews of Alexandria, for example, at the time. They might reflect all kinds of other traditions that we're not familiar with.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

Right. What I argue is that some of the biblical text is kind of arguing against these Greek sources. Right. But they might reflect certain traditions that were oral traditions among the Jews of Alexandria, for example, at the time. They might reflect all kinds of other traditions that we're not familiar with.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

But they don't necessarily mean that they were familiar with the biblical text, because they are not really arguing with the biblical text. That's the point. They're coming in and saying this was the case, and they're not trying to show that the biblical text is wrong. Whereas the biblical text is trying to show that they're wrong.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

But they don't necessarily mean that they were familiar with the biblical text, because they are not really arguing with the biblical text. That's the point. They're coming in and saying this was the case, and they're not trying to show that the biblical text is wrong. Whereas the biblical text is trying to show that they're wrong.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

But they don't necessarily mean that they were familiar with the biblical text, because they are not really arguing with the biblical text. That's the point. They're coming in and saying this was the case, and they're not trying to show that the biblical text is wrong. Whereas the biblical text is trying to show that they're wrong.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

So that means that that actually hints at a certain precedence here of the Greek sources over the biblical sources. And so โ€“ because when you're arguing against something, you clearly are coming later. By the way, what โ€“

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

So that means that that actually hints at a certain precedence here of the Greek sources over the biblical sources. And so โ€“ because when you're arguing against something, you clearly are coming later. By the way, what โ€“

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

So that means that that actually hints at a certain precedence here of the Greek sources over the biblical sources. And so โ€“ because when you're arguing against something, you clearly are coming later. By the way, what โ€“

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

I mean, the vast majority, of course, is Greek. And that's another thing. The Library of Alexandria was constructed in order to โ€“ organize the Greek world, the works, the great works of the Greek world and to create authoritative additions and clean additions and the most accurate additions according to the scientific standards of that day for the Greek world. So they were very Hellenocentric.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

I mean, the vast majority, of course, is Greek. And that's another thing. The Library of Alexandria was constructed in order to โ€“ organize the Greek world, the works, the great works of the Greek world and to create authoritative additions and clean additions and the most accurate additions according to the scientific standards of that day for the Greek world. So they were very Hellenocentric.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

I mean, the vast majority, of course, is Greek. And that's another thing. The Library of Alexandria was constructed in order to โ€“ organize the Greek world, the works, the great works of the Greek world and to create authoritative additions and clean additions and the most accurate additions according to the scientific standards of that day for the Greek world. So they were very Hellenocentric.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

There is in scholarship and historically a lot of people claim that there's this idea coming from the letter of Aristeas A very famous document written to describe how the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek. But it's also a mythological, I mean, it's not a very historical document. We call it often in scholarship, we call it pseudo-Aristeas.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

There is in scholarship and historically a lot of people claim that there's this idea coming from the letter of Aristeas A very famous document written to describe how the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek. But it's also a mythological, I mean, it's not a very historical document. We call it often in scholarship, we call it pseudo-Aristeas.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

There is in scholarship and historically a lot of people claim that there's this idea coming from the letter of Aristeas A very famous document written to describe how the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek. But it's also a mythological, I mean, it's not a very historical document. We call it often in scholarship, we call it pseudo-Aristeas.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

And there's a lot of- That's what we were talking about before. Yeah. Okay. And so it's a very important document, but it's not a very historically trustworthy document. Okay. But it's a very important one because it does show what the Jews wanted to show to the world in the second century before the Common Era, to the Greek world, how they wanted to present themselves.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

And there's a lot of- That's what we were talking about before. Yeah. Okay. And so it's a very important document, but it's not a very historically trustworthy document. Okay. But it's a very important one because it does show what the Jews wanted to show to the world in the second century before the Common Era, to the Greek world, how they wanted to present themselves.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

And there's a lot of- That's what we were talking about before. Yeah. Okay. And so it's a very important document, but it's not a very historically trustworthy document. Okay. But it's a very important one because it does show what the Jews wanted to show to the world in the second century before the Common Era, to the Greek world, how they wanted to present themselves.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

And in it, in that document, in this letter of Aristeas, supposedly the king, Ptolemy, wanted to commission a translation of the Hebrew Bible into the Greek. in order to keep that in the Library of Alexandria. There are a lot of problems with that idea. First of all, as I said, they were not really interested in anything that's not Greek.

Danny Jones Podcast
#297 - Ancient Historian: NEW Texts Change Everything We Knew about the Bible | Gad Barnea

And in it, in that document, in this letter of Aristeas, supposedly the king, Ptolemy, wanted to commission a translation of the Hebrew Bible into the Greek. in order to keep that in the Library of Alexandria. There are a lot of problems with that idea. First of all, as I said, they were not really interested in anything that's not Greek.