Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Pricing

Gagan Sandhu

šŸ‘¤ Person
680 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

We don't tie up with influencers or influencers. We believe that it's less authentic. I would rather be selling our own product and not just using an influencer. We want to be an influencer ourselves rather than use other influencers.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

We don't tie up with influencers or influencers. We believe that it's less authentic. I would rather be selling our own product and not just using an influencer. We want to be an influencer ourselves rather than use other influencers.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

I think some of the things that I'm going to say are probably going to be controversial, but I'm just going to say it anyway. There are many aspects of this. I'll focus on one or two. Regarding ageism, I think I'm less worried about that.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

I think some of the things that I'm going to say are probably going to be controversial, but I'm just going to say it anyway. There are many aspects of this. I'll focus on one or two. Regarding ageism, I think I'm less worried about that.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

But the way I think about it is, as compared to, say, 20, 30 years ago, today, in this economy, especially in the US, and maybe in other places as well, a career is not It doesn't span 30, 40, 50 years anymore. A typical career, this is my reading, is about 10 years. Every 10 years or so, you need to rediscover your career. I have done it. I started as a mechanical engineer.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

But the way I think about it is, as compared to, say, 20, 30 years ago, today, in this economy, especially in the US, and maybe in other places as well, a career is not It doesn't span 30, 40, 50 years anymore. A typical career, this is my reading, is about 10 years. Every 10 years or so, you need to rediscover your career. I have done it. I started as a mechanical engineer.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

Seven years later, I became a programmer. Another five years later, I became a manager. Another 10 years later, I became a leader in tech overall. And five years later, I started a company. So I have changed career basically three or four times in the less than three, two and a half decades that I've been working. I think this is going to be the norm.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

Seven years later, I became a programmer. Another five years later, I became a manager. Another 10 years later, I became a leader in tech overall. And five years later, I started a company. So I have changed career basically three or four times in the less than three, two and a half decades that I've been working. I think this is going to be the norm.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

And it's less about ageism, it's about discovery. For instance, right now we are in this hype cycle, which is somewhat real, but definitely we are in the cycle, I shouldn't say hype cycle, We're in the cycle where some of the old guard technologies are getting replaced with new guard technologies like AI, for instance.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

And it's less about ageism, it's about discovery. For instance, right now we are in this hype cycle, which is somewhat real, but definitely we are in the cycle, I shouldn't say hype cycle, We're in the cycle where some of the old guard technologies are getting replaced with new guard technologies like AI, for instance.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

If you are, whether you're food or you're 20, if you are not exploring AI as a technology, as potentially an enabler of new opportunities for you, then you're falling behind. And what happens is I think the ageism is the name we give to the skill gap. Someone coming out of college is probably well equipped with the technologies that have come out in the last couple of years, AI being one of them.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

If you are, whether you're food or you're 20, if you are not exploring AI as a technology, as potentially an enabler of new opportunities for you, then you're falling behind. And what happens is I think the ageism is the name we give to the skill gap. Someone coming out of college is probably well equipped with the technologies that have come out in the last couple of years, AI being one of them.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

Somebody who's been working in corporate and doing certain job is less likely to have used those tools because those tools are new and their job didn't require it. So I think as an individual, I think the onus is on me to discover those things and learn those things on my own so that ageism doesn't become a place for me to put the blame on. It should be skills.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

Somebody who's been working in corporate and doing certain job is less likely to have used those tools because those tools are new and their job didn't require it. So I think as an individual, I think the onus is on me to discover those things and learn those things on my own so that ageism doesn't become a place for me to put the blame on. It should be skills.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

And skills are something that we unfortunately or fortunately live in a time when skills have to be updated and upgraded constantly. That's one. Second thing is, I tell anybody who I've worked with, anybody who has been on my team, I ask them to work hard. Jeff Bezos famously has said, work hard, work smart, work long, and you can't choose between them.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

And skills are something that we unfortunately or fortunately live in a time when skills have to be updated and upgraded constantly. That's one. Second thing is, I tell anybody who I've worked with, anybody who has been on my team, I ask them to work hard. Jeff Bezos famously has said, work hard, work smart, work long, and you can't choose between them.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

When anybody joins at Amazon, they're told they have to do all three things. You have to work hard, you have to work smart, and you have to work long. I think what happens is once we start working, get married, we have kids, we have more social life, we have more obligations, I think the work-around part falls off.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

When anybody joins at Amazon, they're told they have to do all three things. You have to work hard, you have to work smart, and you have to work long. I think what happens is once we start working, get married, we have kids, we have more social life, we have more obligations, I think the work-around part falls off.

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

which is natural, but I think we need to find those times in your career where, in our careers, where we can work long for periods of time to build more equity, so to speak, with our employer or to build more skills. So maybe we are not, the work long part is we are doing somewhat long at the work, but also we are putting extra time to learn more skills. And that way we can actually

Chief Change Officer
#185 Gagan Sandhu: From Mechanical Engineer to Money Engineer—Mastering Career Pivots & Financial Freedom — Part Two

which is natural, but I think we need to find those times in your career where, in our careers, where we can work long for periods of time to build more equity, so to speak, with our employer or to build more skills. So maybe we are not, the work long part is we are doing somewhat long at the work, but also we are putting extra time to learn more skills. And that way we can actually