Gagan Sandhu
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If you are, whether you're food or you're 20, if you are not exploring AI as a technology, as potentially an enabler of new opportunities for you, then you're falling behind. And what happens is I think the ageism is the name we give to the skill gap. Someone coming out of college is probably well equipped with the technologies that have come out in the last couple of years, AI being one of them.
If you are, whether you're food or you're 20, if you are not exploring AI as a technology, as potentially an enabler of new opportunities for you, then you're falling behind. And what happens is I think the ageism is the name we give to the skill gap. Someone coming out of college is probably well equipped with the technologies that have come out in the last couple of years, AI being one of them.
Somebody who's been working in corporate and doing certain job is less likely to have used those tools because those tools are new and their job didn't require it. So I think as an individual, I think the onus is on me to discover those things and learn those things on my own so that ageism doesn't become a place for me to put the blame on. It should be skills.
Somebody who's been working in corporate and doing certain job is less likely to have used those tools because those tools are new and their job didn't require it. So I think as an individual, I think the onus is on me to discover those things and learn those things on my own so that ageism doesn't become a place for me to put the blame on. It should be skills.
And skills are something that we unfortunately or fortunately live in a time when skills have to be updated and upgraded constantly. That's one. Second thing is, I tell anybody who I've worked with, anybody who has been on my team, I ask them to work hard. Jeff Bezos famously has said, work hard, work smart, work long, and you can't choose between them.
And skills are something that we unfortunately or fortunately live in a time when skills have to be updated and upgraded constantly. That's one. Second thing is, I tell anybody who I've worked with, anybody who has been on my team, I ask them to work hard. Jeff Bezos famously has said, work hard, work smart, work long, and you can't choose between them.
When anybody joins at Amazon, they're told they have to do all three things. You have to work hard, you have to work smart, and you have to work long. I think what happens is once we start working, get married, we have kids, we have more social life, we have more obligations, I think the work-around part falls off.
When anybody joins at Amazon, they're told they have to do all three things. You have to work hard, you have to work smart, and you have to work long. I think what happens is once we start working, get married, we have kids, we have more social life, we have more obligations, I think the work-around part falls off.
which is natural, but I think we need to find those times in your career where, in our careers, where we can work long for periods of time to build more equity, so to speak, with our employer or to build more skills. So maybe we are not, the work long part is we are doing somewhat long at the work, but also we are putting extra time to learn more skills. And that way we can actually
which is natural, but I think we need to find those times in your career where, in our careers, where we can work long for periods of time to build more equity, so to speak, with our employer or to build more skills. So maybe we are not, the work long part is we are doing somewhat long at the work, but also we are putting extra time to learn more skills. And that way we can actually
I think we can mitigate the side effects of ageism a decent bit. Does that make sense?
I think we can mitigate the side effects of ageism a decent bit. Does that make sense?
Will I hire someone who's older? So let me address that. So you also asked whether I would hire someone who is, let's say, over 40 and comes to Zillion. I think the honest answer is yes, I consider everyone. And one of the things I learned early on in my career is to hire the best person for the job.
Will I hire someone who's older? So let me address that. So you also asked whether I would hire someone who is, let's say, over 40 and comes to Zillion. I think the honest answer is yes, I consider everyone. And one of the things I learned early on in my career is to hire the best person for the job.
So if right now, if I'm looking for, let's say, a marketing person who can come in and really take our marketing to the next level, I'll be looking for the skills that will help us get there. If those skills are in a 23-year-old or a 35-year-old or a 47-year-old, doesn't make as much difference as what is the specific thing I'm looking for. And sometimes experience is an asset there.
So if right now, if I'm looking for, let's say, a marketing person who can come in and really take our marketing to the next level, I'll be looking for the skills that will help us get there. If those skills are in a 23-year-old or a 35-year-old or a 47-year-old, doesn't make as much difference as what is the specific thing I'm looking for. And sometimes experience is an asset there.
And I would definitely look at that. So I don't think it's ageism as such. I would put it as it's skills. If you have those skills that I'm looking for. And again, we are a small company. We are a startup. Our needs, our skill needs, might be different from, let's say, Google. That is a 27-, 26-year-old company. They might, oh, probably even 30-year-old company at this point.
And I would definitely look at that. So I don't think it's ageism as such. I would put it as it's skills. If you have those skills that I'm looking for. And again, we are a small company. We are a startup. Our needs, our skill needs, might be different from, let's say, Google. That is a 27-, 26-year-old company. They might, oh, probably even 30-year-old company at this point.
Our needs are different, and our skill needs might be different as compared to some of the established companies.
Our needs are different, and our skill needs might be different as compared to some of the established companies.