Gardner Harris

when serious newspaper reporters first started doing stories about the presence of asbestos in Johnson's baby powder.

You know, look, this project I knew was going to be really tough.

Many people told me, Shamita, that it was basically a suicide project.

Johnson & Johnson

not only is the worst behaved company in this industry, and I would argue in American capitalism, but it spends more on corporate lawyers than any other company, and it's not even close.

In many years, they spend a quarter of what

all large companies spend on litigation combined.

And they do not take prisoners.

And, you know, this book is supposed to come out.

We'll see how long it's available because I expect them to come after us.

It was a miracle that this book got through an extensive legal review at Random House.

But I will tell you that none of Random House's foreign partners

Not the British ones, not the Indian ones, none of them have agreed to publish this because they fear the legal risks.

Absolutely.

And in the book, I tell story after story after story of journalistic predecessors of mine who tried to do pieces of this story.

And Johnson & Johnson went to the corporate headquarters of those media organizations and

And Johnson & Johnson being one of the largest advertisers in the world.

Remember, they have a Tylenol brand.

They had Johnson's baby powder.

They have all these prescription medicines.