Gardner Harris
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Well, so Johnson & Johnson has myriad responses.
Much of what I relay in the book comes out of sworn testimony, not only in civil trials, but also I have files from multiple grand juries.
These are secret files in which Johnson & Johnson executives give sworn testimony to the behavior of their corporation.
As they basically always have with me, I went to them as soon as I got this book contract and said, look, I'm going to be working on this for a few years.
I'd love to talk to you.
I'd love to engage with you.
They shut me out.
In these grand jury files, I have 15.
thousands of names and cell phone numbers of executives.
And over the course of doing the research for this book, I called hundreds and hundreds of them.
And some 90% of these people told me to take a hike.
But 10% ended up talking to me.
I am certain that the 90% who told me to take a hike
immediately called corporate headquarters and said, do you know this guy is calling around and asking?
I also have friends who know the chief executives and went to them multiple times and said, look, this guy is a serious journalist.
He's doing a serious thing.
You should really consider talking to him.
They never changed that stance.
But Shamita, that has been their strategy ever since the 1970s,