Garen Hess

Expansion.

Yeah, and that's...

We really expect to be able to make all of that up at some point through expansions because we're starting to have expansion, you know, very large expansion discussions with some of our enterprise customers.

But it takes a while because you've got to get in, got to prove value.

You got to do some initial expansions until two or three land.

And then you can do a big expansion.

Uh, we've got people, um, here in Utah, we've got people, um, some of our dev team out in Eastern Europe and, um, and some people in South America.

Uh, we spent about 14, five.

Oh, boy.

You know, it's funny.

I haven't found a CEO that I just absolutely love.

But I'd have to say Steve Jobs is always one that I love to look at.

But, you know, he's he's gone, but he's still good to follow.

Favorite online tool?

Yep.

One you use a lot.

We actually use Zoom.

So we do a lot of remote collaboration since our team is distributed around the world.

So we use it every day.

Number four, how many hours of sleep are you getting every night?