Gareth Southgate

Goodness me, they were all over the place disagreeing with each other.

That wasn't the case.

I think because when a team's underperforming, they sometimes don't commit as much because they sense it might not work and they don't want to throw themselves all in because they'll be scarred by the failure almost.

So it was a fortunate period in that

I think because of results, there was a willingness for change.

There was definitely an openness within the FA.

We'd moved to St George's Park a few years before.

A lot of change was going on with the junior youth teams, and I'd been involved in that.

People like Dan Ashworth were there, Dave Redding.

So good strategic people.

I wasn't then particularly good strategically, so I had people around me with other skill sets that I was able to lean into.

But culture felt like one of the biggest things and this commitment to the cause.

Was there fear?

Well, definitely fear of...

I guess what I experienced being the player that was responsible for the moment where you go out of a tournament.

And I think there was definitely a feeling of, I don't want to be that player.

So a bit of self-protection.

Playing for your national football team doesn't come with much more pressure than that in sport.

Because you're outside your comfort zone.

At a club, you're there 300 days a year.