Gareth Southgate

So firstly, I always think it's important to acknowledge where other people have been involved, because as a leader, you get a lot of stick for things that aren't all your fault, and you get credit for things that aren't all your decisions.

So, I mean, Dave Redding, who's now joined Wells Rugby,

He was with Clive Woodward in 2003.

They'd been to the Marines, so he'd lived through that experience and he suggested, he thought this would be a good way of putting the guys into a different environment, taking them out of their comfort zone.

Then as the leader, you've got to assimilate all those ideas.

Well, what does that mean?

We've got tens of millions of pounds worth of footballers.

If one of them turns their ankle, we're in real trouble with the clubs here.

Where are we heading with that?

Will they like it?

Will they hate it?

A lot of the players that were with us for the full eight years would say one of the best experiences they ever had.

We definitely asked about who they saw as strong leaders in the group.

So I remember on that camp they talked about

joe hart harry kane and you know then we were up you know okay well you know what what was that and there was a selflessness there was a going in first you know the fearlessness about how they approach things so it was great to get an outside view of your group i mean i i love that aspect of it anyway i'm always looking at the psychology of a group and uh

hierarchy of a group and the dynamics because fundamentally that's what you're building there's the tactics board but there's the flesh and blood and there's how does this all fit together those team dynamics and squad dynamics are critical to creating a culture where players can go and perform at their very best and a team can perform at their best so I have to be careful I don't just focus on that there's all the other things that you need to get right but

you get an idea of players that are going to fit in or not fit in anyway.

But a trip like that accelerates that massively because they're under pressure, they're a bit tired, they're a bit irritable.

They can't just be on their best behaviour.

Their natural tendencies come out and you can start to identify, not sure that's going to work in this environment really.