Garrison Davis

Yeah.

And even then you're still just a citizen.

Then you become a citizen.

You just go into the citizen bucket.

Then you are now citizen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the moment you cut that apart, like it's terrible, terrible things happen.

Yeah, 2024.

I made the episode with Robert and Sophie in which we discussed potential attacks on citizenship and potential ways that Trump... And we get into the birthright citizenship and we get into where it comes from and the fact that this is not an issue about which there has been legal debate.

You will now see articles being like the debate about birthright citizenship.

That is people pulling things out of their ass to create two sides on an issue which has been settled for quite literally...

if not centuries no yeah I would probably try and do something else on birthright citizenship the reason I haven't done a lot is because there isn't a great deal to say yeah like birthright citizenship is a thing in the United States it's been a thing in the United States for a very long time it's just in the constitution

just says that it just says that yeah there are some people who want to take it away and it's specifically like we did that after we ended chattel slavery right like for a very good reason yeah and and pushing back on the things we did after we ended chattel slavery is uh is bad actually but yeah i i will maybe i'll do another episode because i know you've picked up a lot of new listeners since then

Now, Trump's new executive order on citizenship verification for elections also states, quote, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish procedures to allow individuals to access their individual records as well as to update or correct them in advance of elections.

Unquote.

Unclear how this is going to work, if it even is going to work.

It's still not clear that this executive order will actually be implemented as written because of potential constitutional violations.

But, you know, this would be in an attempt to address some of the pretty, pretty big issues that we're saying about someone may be a citizen and not show up as a citizen in these databases for a number of reasons, whether that's because they were naturalized or even in some cases were granted citizenship through one of their parents themselves.

after being in the sole legal custody of that parent who is a US citizen before this individual is 18.