Garrison Davis

The idea that progress towards a neoliberal state, this can be the logic of explicit or less explicit colonialism, I guess.

But like you, you see it there too, right?

Like you see it in the, um, the sort of, uh, do you see a lot in 19th century?

It's, it's very explicit.

The idea to uplift, civilize and Christianize our little brown brothers.

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The white man's burden and, uh, these things that like became very, very on vogue in the late 19th, early 20th century, I suppose.

You see it a lot there too, right?

Yeah, this whole notion, I think that even really starts with the concept of civilization.

slowly you know bring them up make them upright men and closer to being human than the state that they were in previously and the whole narrative around that is what has as it has evolved with time led to the situation that we're in now yeah

And there's this idea as well that even when there are these ruptures in normal, that everything will go back to its right place.

But as I've heard people say, you know, history is a series of unprecedented things, you know?

And one of the unprecedented things in history that...

I wish people would realize is not ever going to come back is that sort of post-war economic boom, you know, that 1950 era growth and excess that has become the default state that many people are striving to return to.

When in reality, something like that is a historical anomaly driven by artificially cheap and abundant energy.

You know, the normal people are talking about sometimes is just this 50 to 70 year fossil fuel binge.

A binge that we are reaching the end of.

And I think a fantasy to believe that we can replicate for all time.