Garrison Davis

Yeah.

That's what the castle is.

It's so tiny.

And this is the main landmark.

This is the thing that everybody goes to and they go hiking around there and all this stuff.

Right.

She was an intern at the Heritage Foundation when they met.

Intriguing.

But in 2018 or so, it became very, very difficult for these folks to stage events.

Right.

For, you know, for unknown reasons.

It's not because they kept killing people.

I don't want to like derail this podcast by bringing up Jason Kessler, but Jason Kessler, who we both know very well, who is who secured the permit for the Unite the Right event.

Jason, you know, was readily associated with Vidir because of his contributions to the site and people knew that.

And that may put even more pressure because they're like, well, this Charlottesville guy, right?

The Unite the Right guy.

And hey, we can hold our conferences here.

And so that's how they got it.

They ended up getting it for that reason.

Yeah, it is this sort of microcosm of what happened to America.