Garry Lyon

Ask other builders, then come back to us.

Very different.

Yeah, a nice little maxing jacket.

It is different.

I didn't get to this yesterday.

So Richmond, we know where Richmond are at, but we've given them a very easy pass, right?

So we will, as footy lovers, we will support what they're doing if the young players that are playing, it can't necessarily give them victories at the moment, continue to improve and develop.

There's a bit of stagnation there with a few of the young Richmond players.

They've got some injuries too.

No, no, all of that.

And I can see- Acknowledge that though.

But say Luke Traynor, for instance, on the weekend gave away four dumb free kicks.

That's not developing.

That's not learning.

That's not understanding when I go and when I don't go.

So they're the measurements that are going to get Richmond under some sort of pressure in the next five to six weeks.

It's not about the wins.

Now, of course they would, but then you can coach them hard, but this is the third year for some of these kids.

They've got to be learning, Tim.

They've got to show signs that they are learning, and there's a couple that are slow learners.