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Garry and Tim - Full Show - Wednesday 15th April (15.04.26)

14 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 7.304 Tim Watson

Breakfast with Gary and Tim. Morning, everyone.

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Great to have you with us. Wednesday, April the 15th. It is a very busy day yesterday. Lots to talk about. And we have got a show that is stacked, packed to the eyeballs. Andrew McGrath, the Essendon captain. He'll be a great chat. Lean Clean Tom Green, our weekly Wednesday interview, is also going to join us from the GWS Giants. Andrew Russell's in for Wellness Wednesday.

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And then Tom Stewart, the Geelong superstar. What about that for a show? McGrath, Green, Russell, Stewart. All the footy news and discussions out of 704-339-8116. You know the number, the temper text, 1-300-736-736.

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Chapter 2: Who are the featured guests joining the show?

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And I'm always excited when I can look across the desk and see the whisper who's wandered up to the big smoke. Good morning to you, Gary. Good morning, everybody. Great to be here. Crikey, have you got some stuff lined up today. You were busy yesterday. What? You must have been on the phone all day getting all this stuff organised. Remind me of which stuff I've got organised. Got Macca. Oh, yeah.

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Got Tommy Green. Tommy McGrath. Andy McGrath would be great. The Bombers, not out of the woods, but there's a fantastic weekend. Tom Green is going to be increasingly must listen to on a Wednesday. Andy Russell in. And then Tom Stewart, who's a superstar. McGrath, Green, Russell, Stewart. That's a nice little spine that we've got to the show today. Do you like coming up to the city now?

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Do I like it? Or do you rush back to the seaside shack? I rush back. Do you? You get used to not having lights and things like that that you've got to stop for. Turn it up. You do, Gary. You're not like you're in isolation. And the air is much cleaner down there at shore.

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Come on. Choke at night time. And there's too many lights and there's too many sirens going. It's good to see you. It's great to see you too. You wouldn't have seen Jack Ginnivan on Agenda Setters last night, would you? No. You had nothing to... No, you wouldn't have had time to watch that? No. No. Interesting. Interesting. I want to throw this out there. When people are interviewed...

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And this is what everybody goes to, and I've been a part of this as well. You go to the historic stuff that somebody's been associated with. It doesn't matter how long ago it might be. Is that what you want to see when somebody's being interviewed? What sort of questions do you want the person to be asked? I'm interested. I don't know the correct answer to this.

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Do you want to hear him talk about his early days when he was a bit of a scallywag and Collingwood ushered him out? Do you still want to hear Jack talk about that or not?

Chapter 3: What insights do the hosts share about the upcoming AFL matches?

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Oh, no, I've heard that. Or do you want to talk about football and tactics? I'm interested as to what people really want to hear. Well, right now, I haven't seen it. Because we do it every day. The only, well, not the only, the interesting Jack, he's a flavour of the month at the moment.

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A couple of journos have jumped on his wagon, so they're pushing him pretty hard, is that he's got a good footy brain. You want to explore his footy brain. But that's the interest in Jack Ginneman. For me right now, that is too.

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Yeah, his development from someone that was seen to be maybe lifestyle first, footy along second, because he used to go to the races before grand finals, all that sort of palaver. And now it's emerged that he's actually pretty smart and he's got a good footy brain. And now people think he's the second coming of Norm Smith. He agreed with that actually last night.

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That he's the second coming at Norm Smith. No, that he's got a good footy. He's got a good IQ. I'm pretty sure he said Jack Ginneman at one stage.

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213.702 - 214.743 Garry Lyon

Well, he third-personed himself.

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He third-personed himself. He was good. We had him on Talking Footy a couple of years ago, and I really liked him. I didn't realize – I knew he was young, but when you see somebody in person like that and you're talking to them – and you hear them and the way they respond, and then you realise, my goodness, he is just a young, young man.

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And he's nervous, and he looked a little bit nervous on their show last night too. But he's very likeable. He's very, very likeable, Jack. Well, he'll be running the AFL with the sort of raps that are coming out about him. His coach, I don't really listen to the media raps on him. I listen to the coach. I mean, Sam Mitchell says he comes down to the bench and he's one of the ones he goes to.

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Then I sit up and take notice. Yeah, no, he's a smart. Gaz, saw you in Adelaide over the weekend. You are a tall, strapping rooster. There you go. That's a nice little text early in the program. I'm hunched over like I'm a cripple at the moment. So that's very kind. Thank you.

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Hey, you know the gout gout run on the weekend and Lockie Kennedy and the guy that ran second whose name escapes me, you'll be able to tell me. So an American apparently- Aidan Murphy you're talking about. What's his name? Aidan Murphy. Aidan Murphy, yeah, who really pushed Gout in the 200 meters, ran a PB. Seven of the eight, was there eight runners in it? Yep. All ran PBs.

Chapter 4: What are the key talking points about player performances?

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I don't think they are yet. Of course they are. They're sitting there going, oh, my Lord, they've got a bloke over in Australia who's running quicker times than Usain Bolt, and we can't have that, so they'll just talk him down. I take great offence to that. Okay, but if you had have heard this story, and it wasn't involving Australians, and somebody had written where seven of the eight –

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runners in a race all ran PBs, would you not be slightly suspicious?

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408.115 - 409.399 Andrew McGrath

No. Not in any way. No, I would not.

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You are the most cynical person I know. You never believe anything that you read. You never believe anything you see. But you're happy. You're happy. You're happy because they're Australians just to accept that this is exactly what it should be. Tell what I believe, my friend. I believe the clock. You push it and you stop it.

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Now, if you want to go into a conspiracy theory saying that the bloke pushed the clock a fraction earlier, then you do that. But not for me, my friend. I'm backing my man Gout and Smitty and Lockie Kennedy all the way. You're un-Australian. No, I'm not un-Australian. But are you saying this is all handheld time? No, of course I'm not. Well, what are you saying?

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I'm just doing that as a you, you know. What's that? He's not a bloke using a stopwatch. Well. Of course, this is all electronic. Oh, is it? It's all electronic. Is it? Well, of course it is. And the reason that Smithy says that he hasn't run a. You can interfere with the electronics. A sub 2200 is because it's, you know, wind and all those things.

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So over the past three months, they're going, oh, no, that's not what. I didn't hear the American. I didn't hear the Americans whinging in the last three months when Smithy and Gowd are running 20 plus because they've had headwinds and all that sort of stuff. It's now they go under 20. They go, hang on a minute. Hmm. These Australians, they're saying that we've cheated.

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Yeah, no, they're saying... No, no, they're saying that we cheated. Here, I'll quote you. Oh, no, they are. Some plonker called Aaron Brown. This is as fake as it comes. Australia remains the home of fake times. This is as fake as it comes. That's true. You're too accepting of that. Where's your Australian pride gone, my friend? Get up in arms. No, I'm not up in arms.

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The only thing that is holding me back is the fact that I didn't realise seven of the runners all ran PPs. That does sound a little bit... No, because in my experience back in St. Augustine's when I used to run the 400, I ran much quicker when everyone else ran quicker. Oh, you got pulled along by the rest of the crowd. It lifts. A rising tide. Have you heard this? A rising tide lifts everyone.

Chapter 5: What measurements are putting Richmond under pressure?

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So they're the measurements that are going to get Richmond under some sort of pressure in the next five to six weeks. It's not about the wins. They'd be coaching them hard though, wouldn't they? Now, of course they would, but then you can coach them hard, but this is the third year for some of these kids.

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Chapter 6: How do coaching strategies impact player learning?

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They've got to be learning, Tim. They've got to show signs that they are learning, and there's a couple that are slow learners.

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Chapter 7: What are the key factors for Melbourne's defensive strategy?

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This grey area on the out-of-bounds is easily fixed. If you can't decide who it came off in the space of two seconds or three seconds, throw the damn thing in, right? Yep. Done. Done. And that handballing into the shin, which was a very smart play by Alex Neil Bullen, out. Out.

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Chapter 8: What insights does Tom Stewart provide about Mark Blitzer?

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That's no good. That's a throw-in as well. Otherwise, you're going to spend your whole life looking at blokes and who handballed. That's the end of that. Yep. Keep going. I like them. Three 0-2 wins in the final quarter against Adelaide and Collingwood. They had to kick two goals in the last five to ten minutes to win those games.

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Might be the defining moment of their season and ensure that they play and finish in the top four. Yep. They can play in different modes. They're proving that, which is a great thing for their development. Yes. Clubs that went to work on Melbourne and a couple of their defenders that haven't quite got the agility to turn around and run back the goal as quickly as they would like. Name them.

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Well, Lever and McDonald particularly. So Caddy just flipped them around a couple of times heading back the goal. That's going to be something that they're going to have to attend to. Turner is a very good defender. The other two are very good defenders as well. But neither of those guys would be in their long-term plans, Melbourne, as they develop. No.

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No, no, but they're an important part of the back six right now. Okay. And they'd like to see the game in front of them. What else you got? They got a fifth? Geez, hurry me up. Come on. Fourth and fifth. If you set Mitch Owens to play on Aaliyah Aaliyah, and he did a good job. So Aaliyah Aaliyah is an intercept monster. The week before it took I don't know how many marks.

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And you look up and there's only the two of them there, and you've got to go, okay, I know Mitch is going to compete. Kick the ball to the ground. Don't kick it in the air if that's your only option. Players look up and they go, oh, no, I'll kick it there anyway. Kick the damn thing on the ground, off to the left of the two.

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Because in the end you go, where do you want Owens competing against Aaliyah Aaliyah? Do you want it high in the air on their heads or do you want it at ground level? The obvious answer is at ground level, yet we still see plonkers, dummies, kick it on the head of the two of them. That's a keeper. Your five quick thoughts are a keeper. David Zieters joined us. Good morning to you, Zieters.

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I wish, I guess. Hello there, Skeeter. We need some clarification, okay? Was Jason Johnson in his car while the tribunal hearing was on or was he in his car post the tribunal hearing? No. So there were closing submissions being made after everyone had given their evidence. Both parties were still giving their closing submissions. Then his camera went off for a short period of time.

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It came back on. It looked like the phone was behind the wheel. He was driving a moving vehicle and said it wouldn't affect him.

3471.511 - 3475.997 David Zita

But that's what happened. It was during the closing submissions part of the hearing. And then he turned his camera off.

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