Garth Tander

So we had a degree of that as well, even back in my day.

It's always good to watch.

Yeah, that's good.

What else was that?

That was good?

That was good.

That was a plan to drive there for a period of time and then end up in team management and actually own a percentage of the race team as well.

Right.

So Gary knew that was something that was on my radar from the first time I was at GRM.

So yeah, went back there and I went back there originally to drive the Volvo.

It was going to be the drive the Volvo, because that was seriously good car.

And they were in court with Volvo and there was all sorts going on with who owned the engines, who owned the cars and all the rest of it.

And in the end that we didn't run Volvos, we ran Commodores.

So I ended up using, we had a engine deal, which by that stage the engines were good.

So we're using engines and built our own chassis and away we went.

Oh, that was in the, no, that was the next year in the ZB.

Yeah.

So that was the second year in 2018.

Yeah.

So we built, because the Volvo thing happened late.