Gary Brecka

And it's really sad that so many people have suffered, but this is really what the role of our Food and Drug Administration should be.

In your view, and I asked this to Kyle too, in a perfect world, because the sun's gonna set on your tenure in another three years.

So during your four-year tenure as the, what is it, the 27th chairman of the Food and Drug Administration, in a perfect world, what would you like to see accomplished by our FDA for the betterment of the population, the American people?

Well, first of all, I'm glad to hear, I love your wife.

I want to say she's amazing.

She is amazing.

I'm glad to hear that.

She came into the sauna fully clothed for the record.

So Marty and Kyle and I are in there in our bathing suits.

We're all sweaty in sauna.

She got a text message from one of my clients and she was like, I got to share this with you.

She kept talking and talking.

I'm like, how long can you stay in a sauna fully clothed?

I know, fully clothed.

Almost like with a sweater on.

I'm throwing water on the hot coals.

We're sweating.

But we got a lot of feedback on that.

So the FDA jumped on the bandwagon 22 years ago and put these black box scary warnings.

We removed those black box warnings.