Gary Brecka

Malia is the happiest that you're here right now.

I think the reason for that is like,

We're biohackers, and we don't know how to biohack that.

How do you measure that?

And what I will tell you without naming any names, some of the people I hold in the highest regard, I mean, some of the most intellectually dominant figures in this industry that are mentors of mine, I've read multiple books of theirs, have the worst relationships.

Yeah.

and have had multiple failed relationships.

And I would love to unpack that.

I find that very refreshing.

In fact, I've heard you talk about an experiment where this guy had before and after pictures and he got in really, really, really good shape.

Yes.

And they showed these before and after images to a large audience of men and women.

And the men all picked the image of the guy when he was jacked, not when he had the dad bod.

Yeah.

And

And then the vast majority of the women picked the image of the guy when he still had the dad bod.

And the way that you explained and rationalized it just made so much sense because you were like, you know, they looked at this figure and said, he doesn't actually look like he'd be that much fun.

Yeah.

He's probably going to leave the party at 9 o'clock.

He's probably getting up at 6 in the morning to work out.