Gary Brecka

We got to get him on the podcast.

I appreciate it.

But you weren't always that way.

No.

And you solved some kind of problem in your life and running became your outlet.

Do you mind giving us a little background on that?

Yeah.

And.

But when did it morph into the ultra endurance?

I mean, I think there's a lot of people watching this podcast that have run a half marathon, that have run a marathon.

I mean, I've run a marathon.

I've done sprint tries and half iron, but that was probably... Ultra endurance is a whole different game.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah.

And I really want to unpack that, but

You know, I think we throw this term PTSD around so often.

I just want to drill in on that for a minute because, you know, we know our veterans get PTSD and we know firefighters and police officers have high incidence of PTSD.

And we all know that it must be related to traumatic events, you know, stress, being overworked.

I mean...

Honestly, I don't know how some people wake up, that's why I have so much respect for law enforcement, and walk out their front door not knowing whether or not they're going to exchange their life for a perfect stranger.