Gary Breen

They never beat them.

They lost two, the one in the league and then the cup, obviously final.

And they were lucky to get a draw at the Emirates at the beginning of the season.

So that would be the concern.

And that is probably, if you're looking at Arsenal thinking, as soon as they go up against the elite level teams, they don't produce.

Yeah, it really was.

And you're right, because a lot of the Liverpool kind of ex-players or whatever, or anyone associated with the club say, no, Liverpool don't do that.

We don't treat our managers like that.

Well, you did.

Where did that decision come from?

Because we had a lot of the kind of the people who were talking to the press saying, no, we're happy with our honest lot.

He was going to start the season.

So was it the powers that be, the owners, the American owners who said, no, no, we've got to change this?

Was it the fact that Iriola suddenly became available or another manager did?

Because if they were going to jump Liverpool...

the kind of most obvious one was Xavi Alonso in terms of being Liverpool royalty himself as a player.

But they didn't on that.

So we all believed then, okay, they are persevering with slot then.

The only problem I'll have in terms of slot coming in, I thought he was magnificent last year.

He had a really soft touch on that squad.