Gary Breen

Roy, Lee Carsley, Matt Holland can cover the ground.

And football has evolved as well in terms of the setup, but we just don't have that physicality in central midfield.

We need to try and find it.

And ultimately as well, it's not about pace as a defender, whether or not you have a high line.

It's your body shape, reading play ahead of you.

And I've said this to you many times, Joe, I hate kind of referencing it all the time, but Kenny Cunningham was slow.

I've never played with a centre-back who's always squeezing the pitch and never got running behind because he could read situations well.

So it's not as if we don't have the dynamics to do it.

I just don't think we can do it.

It's interesting.

So you think this is Hamer's template going forward, do you?

Oh, yeah, clearly.

And if anyone thinks that this is going to be a kind of...

really evolve into something or morph into something different, that's not going to happen.

May I ask you, when did he do that presentation?

After the game last night.

aggregate win over Hungary, getting a positive draw against the Czechs.

They're really, I'm not like dismissing any of those results.

They're incredible in terms of that.

And so I've no issue in terms of the style that's adopted.