Gary Breen

I'm just not sure whether or not the evolution will be there in terms of, I don't think it'll be dramatically different, but there has to be an improvement in it in terms of getting a bit more control at times and playing into what we're good at.

And I'm not sure if it's actually going to come.

It's interesting, though, isn't it, in terms of these managers?

And he's very quick to kind of, like, get you press guys on site, Dan, in terms of making sure that you're, like, relaying the messages he wants to get out there.

No, no, definitely.

But this is like, I'm kind of looking at it and thinking, he has definitely created a better version of this squad than we've seen, but I still don't think it's the best version of him.

I still think the players are better than what we have seen.

I genuinely believe that.

And you say there, Joe, that he's not got a lot to play with in terms of we ain't got elite level.

He's not an elite level manager.

He's not doing anything.

I genuinely believe this as well.

As much as I rate our players in terms of they can achieve more,

I rate our coaches as well.

And that's not a kind of side issue, but this isn't like, this isn't Pep Guardiola revolutionizing it.

And I do think you're right to touch on that.

I do think that you kind of, we're a lower confidence-wise team

And our stock was low, even in our own kind of thought process.

So we kind of are looking at anything and a playoff.

And listen, his remit was to secure that Nations League status, which he did, and a playoff against as a third seed.